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  1. #81
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    Seriat's Avatar
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    Seriat Toren
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by InVizO View Post
    Umm no your wrong, WP is no place for a fresh 50, CM and Praet are, that's why they dont give myth stones. learn more plz
    WP is a lvl 50 dungeon designed for AF gear. The fact you think otherwise tells me you have no clue what you are talking about. Want your 10 mins runs while being way overgeared? That's your business. However, don't come on the forums spouting these lies as fact that WP can't be done in AF. You need to stop being a bad healer.
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  2. #82
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    Chi Shi
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by InVizO View Post
    Warriors are better at everything besides primals and coil, I don't discriminate on anything other than HP because, as a healer, I don't see much difference as far as mitigation until Garuda/Titan etc.

    5500 HP btw, for the tank that linked the photos, is fine for every content in duty finder except Titan(you will want to build your own PT for Titan), so whats your problem?
    AHAHAHAHAHA! This is a great troll, but I think it's starting to be a bit too obvious. Nicely done, Invizo. Multiple ilv90 stuff not enough for Titan? Completely ignoring how effective health works? HP is the only stat for tanks? Oh, you!
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  3. #83
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    Rhoke Dawnstar
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    Quote Originally Posted by InVizO View Post
    5500 HP btw, for the tank that linked the photos, is fine for every content in duty finder except Titan(you will want to build your own PT for Titan), so whats your problem?
    I do Titan DF PuG fine as is. I won't argue that a built PT is better even if you can only get 2-3 players and PuG the rest. If I needed 8k HP to do Titan I wouldn't have been able to get my relic in the first place. It would be more sensible to say that you would prefer Tanks to have certain gear for each content rather then HP. If I were to follow your "guide", a PLD would never be able to get there relic as even with full AF+1 PLD HP will never hit 8k.

    If in fact you are talking about gear requirements, again SE plans to implement a minimum iLvl requirement in 2.1 to help alleviate the huge wave of undergeared jobs doing content they are clearly not ready for.
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  4. #84
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    Appleh4x's Avatar
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    Aka Kitsune
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    Goblin
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    Marauder Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by InVizO View Post
    Therefore the HP Requirements for TANKS in Duty Finder groups is as follows:
    CM & Praetorium: Full AF1 Gear
    Wanderers Palace: 4.6k HP
    Amdapor Keep: 5.2k HP (6K if you plan to tome farm quicker than WP)
    Ifrit: Meh who cares
    Garuda: 5.5k HP
    Titan: You dont pug Titan, maybe 8K HP

    You obviously don't know jack. To have 8k HP as a Warrior in Titan it means you have to have 80% i90 armor (myth and allagan) plus you'd need to eat HQ toast.
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  5. #85
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    Avalon Albrook
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    Quote Originally Posted by InVizO View Post
    Warriors are better at everything besides primals and coil, I don't discriminate on anything other than HP because, as a healer, I don't see much difference as far as mitigation until Garuda/Titan etc.

    5500 HP btw, for the tank that linked the photos, is fine for every content in duty finder except Titan(you will want to build your own PT for Titan), so whats your problem?
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  6. #86
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    Invizo Stellar
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Appleh4x View Post
    You obviously don't know jack. To have 8k HP as a Warrior in Titan it means you have to have 80% i90 armor (myth and allagan) plus you'd need to eat HQ toast.
    yeah and that sounds like one smooth run too. You guys say you can pug (DF) titan fine with less, but do 5 titan pugs (DF), I'll bet money you wipe at least 5 times throughout the runs.
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  7. #87
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    Kal El
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    Gotta hand it to Invizo, he's a mighty fine troll. He actually had me thinking he believed he was conveying facts.

    This man deserves a bridge.

    Quote Originally Posted by InVizO View Post
    yeah and that sounds like one smooth run too. You guys say you can pug (DF) titan fine with less, but do 5 titan pugs (DF), I'll bet money you wipe at least 5 times throughout the runs.
    I used DF to practice Titan till the heart phase. We beat him first go. Your statement is invalid.
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    Last edited by Kal-El; 10-25-2013 at 01:46 AM.

  8. #88
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    Appleh4x's Avatar
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    Aka Kitsune
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    Marauder Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by InVizO View Post
    yeah and that sounds like one smooth run too. You guys say you can pug titan fine with less, but do 5 titan pugs, I'll bet money you wipe at least 5 times throughout the runs.
    I'm saying if you have that much AF+ and allagan gear you wouldn't be DF'ing Titan. Plus you wouldn't be eating food that cost 4k each.
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    Karon Mephisto
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by InVizO View Post
    like this guy, obviously he missed "duty finder" I think I can safely lump the rest of the QQers in with him; not using their heads.
    "This Guy" don't need 6k on PLD or 8k on WAR to beat Titan.. but according to you its the Tank fault, right? And has noooothing to do with the "skill" of the healers right? lol.. It does not matter if you use Duty Finder or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by InVizO View Post
    Meh, my skills speak for themselves in game. I've carried many peeps and Titan is nothing new to me.
    For someone that "skilled" i am surprised you only have 1 Relic and didnt touch Coil Turn 1 yet. For someone who does "carry" people through Titan, i am surprised how low your knowledge about the actual requirements are.

    Quote Originally Posted by InVizO View Post
    I unlike many others get the proper gear before moving along in the content and carrying my own weight and some.
    Hold on.. you run around in AK Gear a couple DL pieces and telling people to get Allagan/Relic and call them ungeared? WoW.. that gave me a good laugh.

    Quote Originally Posted by InVizO View Post
    Warriors are better at everything besides primals and coil
    You are making yourself look like a fool... wonder why i tank Coil Turn 4 then on WAR. And since you have not touched Turn 1 yet, you are one to talk about Coil lol. May you should start doing it, before you start talk about it?
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    Xyos Soma
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Lol no these are way off, maybe more HP for a warrior, but a Paladin can have just over 4K and do up to Garuda/Amdapor Keep.
    is
    Vitality for a Paladin is not the end-all stat. Properly using the defensive cooldowns and knowing a fight is top priority.
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