Dear SE: Make Game Good. (Open World NMs & HNMs)

[DarthTaru]

I'm not the one here that's whining, honestly. That would be you with all your `QQ someone tried to MPK me 6 years ago so the game should be boring so RMT can't farm stuff`
Also, I didn't get just one Moldavite earring and just one pair of leaping boots easily. I got lots and lots of them easily. It wasn't hard. Maybe you were just bad at it.

Don't worry, they'll make content for casuals too. As well as easy stuff.
Just get some AK gear. Only drama your sensitive soul will have to suffer in there is Duty Finder tanks rage quitting because you used an AoE.

[Ravij]

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And yet you have very little support for this idea. I count.. oh whats this? Only one like. You should be grateful I put in my opinion to keep this thread "Alive" despite disliking the idea.

Oh I must edit this in. I don't find this game boring at all. I've leveled two characters to 50 and still have plenty on my plate to do. So.. Where you say "Boring" others say "Fun".

[DarthTaru]

For your Leaping Lizzy hardships:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF3DCa4TbD0

[Ravij]

For your Leaping Lizzy hardships:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF3DCa4TbD0

Thank you to commercials for giving me time to see you're a Naruto fan. X'd out of that before the commercial even got past 30 seconds. Have fun with your dying thread.

[Fortyniners]

I agree with no open world HMN. Open world NMs are an invitation to cheating. In FFXI the linkshell with the fastest claim bot got the NM. SE tried to work around that but, as always, the bot programmers found away around the fix. And, as mentioned above, it often became a PK fest.

[Terri]

Except I'd be forced to participate because the gear that the HNM's drop would be "essential" to current raiding; As it was in XI. Again. No. If all they were there for was to drop vanity esque items with no visible stats or bonuses. Then yes I can see this working. But so long as gear thats dropped has some potential for leveling classes. Then No.

So you're saying you rather spend your entire week doing nothing after your 2 hours of coil and maybe 2-3 hours of myth point spamming on monday and then do absolutely nothing for the rest of the week. Not all of us want to do nothing, we want to actually play the game.For those of us who have Every job leveled, every relic, and all the darklight gear - there really isn't anything to do. HNMs would solve this. It worked in XI, it works in most mmos on the market. Its fun, Its competitive, and when you get a shiney you have something awesome to show for your hours of work camping whatever monster.

[Terri]

And open world dungeons would be amazing. Its kinda boring in instanced only dungeons, you dont get to see other doing anything aside from fates. This game really doesnt have much going for it in a social aspect. Especially once you join a FC/LS you dont really do much in pickup groups anymore and dont really get to meet new people outside of town which people arent logging on to stand afk in town much anymore due to no content and auto-DC. If you do DF, you dont ever get to see those people again either. Heck even if your're fate grinding, you're better off doing it solo cause you get more exp and its still an easy gold. Open world content should be more grindy and give us all more of a reason to log on and interact with other players. You cant say you didnt talk to anyone outside of your LS when camping any NMs/HNMs and actually met some cool people doing it. :< I met so many cool people in XI, and even crappy f2p games doing that lol.

[Ravij]

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And yet the numbskull of an OP failed to see one of my posts suggesting a work around. Here let me dig it up for you; it's only on the middle of the first page. Oh wait.. you quoted it. Here let me highlight the spot for you.

"If all they were there for was to drop vanity esque items with no visible stats or bonuses. Then yes I can see this working. But so long as gear thats dropped has some potential for leveling classes. Then No."

Honestly you people give me headaches with your lack there-of on reading capabilities.

Also I see you're in the same FC/LS as Our fabulous OP. Funny how he has to go complain to his fellow lackies to garner a bigger voice.

[DarthTaru]

Honestly, I think your position on this issue isn't driven by logic or game design. I think it's driven 110% by envy for other players. Envy and malice. You hate anything that might allow someone else to get something that makes them look cool or do more damage. That isn't the way to design an MMO.

I said earlier, you don't have to participate. You said "I'll have to." Well, no you won't.
No offense but I don't believe for even a second that you'll ever have top tier stuff. I don't think you will whether the content is instanced or open world. That's cool. I don't pass judgement on such things, but you shouldn't be trying to prevent content from entering the game because of it.


They can also add these drops to instances like they did later in XI. That would eliminate that gripe, but I'm sure your gripes will continue. At the end of the day, it isn't about drama, or MPK's, or RMT's, or whatever other excuse you can conjure on this forum. At the end of the day it's about you not wanting other people to get cool stuff (that they'll get and you won't anyway, whether in an instance or in open world)

[Terri]

I agree with no open world HMN. Open world NMs are an invitation to cheating. In FFXI the linkshell with the fastest claim bot got the NM. SE tried to work around that but, as always, the bot programmers found away around the fix. And, as mentioned above, it often became a PK fest.

Theres workarounds for bots, for example they could possibly do a system like Ragnarok Online had- PT that does most with the mob ( damage taken/damage shelled out/ect ) gets the loot. And even in XI you could still outclaim the bots. Me and my husband did it all the time, although it was annoying to do its really nothing to QQ about honestly.