A Question Regarding INT and MND Allocation for Scholar

[Maku]

Why would Cleric Stance do good on SMNs? Even with 30points placed in MND a SMNs INT is still going to be higher. When Cleric Stance is active it switches those two stats AND cuts your healing spells % cure. It is useful on SCH cause we can DPS as well as cure. SMN has zero use for it thanks to the cure % down it gives.

[Zanika]

Why would Cleric Stance do good on SMNs? Even with 30points placed in MND a SMNs INT is still going to be higher. When Cleric Stance is active it switches those two stats AND cuts your healing spells % cure. It is useful on SCH cause we can DPS as well as cure. SMN has zero use for it thanks to the cure % down it gives.

That's half right. When CS is active, it switches your Mind and INT attributes as well as reduces healing by 20%, but it ALSO increases damage by 10% (unless it was changed recently). This makes it useful for any SCH with free time on their hands, and useful for SMN as well since they're supposed to be damaging instead of healing anyway.

[Nexfilius]

This makes it useful for any SCH with free time on their hands, and VERY useful for SMN since they're supposed to be damaging instead of healing anyway.

Summoners do not have access to cleric stance.

The concern of Int vs. Mind on an Arcanist is one that truly means less and less as you level up. I opt'd to reset my stats and put the points into MND as I felt they offered a greater benefit to Scholar than INT augmented Summoner. My logic is you gain a big boost in your primary stat with your job crystal. A summoner with +0 stat points invested in INT will still be a very powerful offensive caster. A scholar with +0 mind will still be a fully functional healer, but the class functions on the principle of smaller heals more often. Anything I could do to skew those numbers up a little bit made a big difference when it came to fast recovery times after the tank or group took a big shot.

[Euphe]

I'm currently working on lvling up ACN to get SCH. I already have a lv50WHM and I love it but I want both ends of the spectrum. I'm planning on putting INT for point allocation up to SCH quest. Once I get SCH I'm gonna re-allocate points into MND and then use Cleric Stance only while applying DoTs then remove it to heal. I do that now with WHM anyways so I'm used to the mechanic. I can see it being very beneficial with minor hassle. Does Cleric Stance effect get applied to your pet as well when SCH?

[Kyronex]

I'm planning on putting INT for point allocation up to SCH quest. Once I get SCH I'm gonna re-allocate points into MND and then use Cleric Stance only while applying DoTs then remove it to heal. I do that now with WHM anyways so I'm used to the mechanic. I can see it being very beneficial with minor hassle. Does Cleric Stance effect get applied to your pet as well when SCH?

Are you saying you want to play both SMN and SCH and go +15int/+15mnd? Either way, it's best to go full MND if you play SCH. It has been mentioned above, having lesser heals will hurt you more than the minor decrease in DPS for the SMN.

[Nexfilius]

Does Cleric Stance effect get applied to your pet as well when SCH?

I've not really tested this, but your pet's stats seem to be based on yours. It's always been my impression that your fairy's output for each spell is based on your stats at the time she casts it -- just like your spells' outputs are based on your stats at the time you cast it.

What I mean by that is I've never noticed cleric stance to affect your fairy at the time of summoning -- but rather at the time she's casting. If you stay in Cleric Stance, then your mind stat will likely take a dip since you're swapping your bigger Mind stat into Int for supporting DPS (and don't forget you are SUPPORTING dps in a group.. though you are quite formidable!). Since your fairy's stats are based on yours HER mind stat will be lower as well while you're in stance. It's not a HUGE difference, but it's noticeable.

Drop out of stance and her heals go back up because your mind stat went back up.