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  1. #41
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    ShinigamiB06's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersun View Post
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    if i have an opinion, and i am supporting it with facts, is my opinion really an opinion or is it a fact? And you may not have explicitly said that I was wrong, but I made the argument that DRG should be using AoE's and this entire time you have been arguing against it. that is just a subtle way of saying im wrong.

    and the example you quoted, you took out of context. I think it is pretty obvious that the difference in DPS between DRG and healer/tank will never be 1%. furthermore i also stated above that the DPS of a tank and healer would not drop to zero. Would it drop? Yeah definitely. But not to 0%. I would say worst case scenario it would drop to 50%
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  2. #42
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    Mmm Spaghettios
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    What I learned from this thread: People have differing opinions on whether maximum dps of the individual > maximum efficiency of party, "facts" try to be made without real, in-game numbers provided, EasyModeX thinks he's the shit when clearly he's just coming off as a dick.

    Did I miss anything?
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  3. #43
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    With better and better gear we've moved from the "we need to cc and burn down targets because we're in af gear in AK" to "lets just aoe and chain pull cause even our healers can just spam holy".

    So obviously you AoE now if you have the gear for it.

    Also someone said something a while back aobut ranged pulling...SMN should be in melee range for Miasma II, or at least dance in and out during miasma II to maximize dps anyway, so mobs won't move much.
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  4. #44
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    AK should be AOE'd in AF1 gear, too. ^_^

    Justsayin'
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  5. #45
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    idk my first week when I was a young bright eyed bard AK was horrible and a deadly place filled with danger.

    Also everyone just speedrun'd so I didn't actually get to fight anything XD
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  6. #46
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    Lol. I Elusive jumped off the platform on my first Demon Wall. AK is fun ^_^.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinigamiB06 View Post
    and the example you quoted, you took out of context. I think it is pretty obvious that the difference in DPS between DRG and healer/tank will never be 1%. furthermore i also stated above that the DPS of a tank and healer would not drop to zero. Would it drop? Yeah definitely. But not to 0%. I would say worst case scenario it would drop to 50%
    Your also assuming Tanks/Healers have no AoEs of their own. And truthfully the DPS difference between a DPS and a healer is only ~20% believe it or not, idk about for a tank. While Aoeing is the best way to increase your dps specifically, it could lower the DPS of the group as a whole. It all really comes down to the skill level of your group. If you AoEing is causing problems with aggro, or whether or not your healer even bothers to DPS in their down time. Ect ect.
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