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  1. #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reslin View Post
    Care to name some popular games that launched without hitches? As in games with a population 250,000 or greater? The names you listed, many of them were far from perfect. Far far. Some of those games aren't even mmo's. Of those games mentioned only LOTRO had the most smooth launch.
    And that was because the population of the game was infinitesmal at launch, i.e. under 150k.

    by the way most of the cash shop games launch with about 150k start ups some are bigger yet they still make it work with surprisingly few start up bugs and no servers locking players out for days
    As stated above, 150k is an infinitesmally small population, particularly for the small-client games that launch as cash shop games.

    Apples and Oranges, my friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CatofNineTails View Post
    the original statement was many cash shop mmo's launch without hitches because the companies that launch them have several titles under their belts.

    the list above was not in answer to that but the insinuation that I have not been in many MMO or game launches which is anything but correct.

    by the way most of the cash shop games launch with about 150k start ups some are bigger yet they still make it work with surprisingly few start up bugs and no servers locking players out for days
    The "Mc mmo cash shops" have very tiny populations. Most of those cash shop mmo's are made in a way that they don't cost much money. Most of them can get by with a population of 25,000. Yes they have multiple titles under their belt but guess what? They also constantly release new mmo's. None of these mmo's are of high quality.

    So despite the problems at launch FF14 is still a game that's 50 times better than most of the Mc MMO Cash Shops that pop up every so many months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reslin View Post
    The "Mc mmo cash shops" have very tiny populations.
    Maplestory was by far one of the biggest MMOs to ever exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Maplestory was by far one of the biggest MMOs to ever exist.
    Again, teeny tiny client with minimal server load per client.

    Apples

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orsnoire View Post
    Again, teeny tiny client with minimal server load per client.
    Except, the post I was responding to stated they generally have tiny populations which simply isn't true. Every MMO "can get by" but the reason MMOs shutdown after they lose a sizable portion is because they wanted to turn a large profit, not simply "get by."
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    Lol lol Yoshi-P sucks this game sucks lol but here have my money on a monthly basis so I can play your bad game lol

    I think I just summed up most of the forum posters?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Maplestory was by far one of the biggest MMOs to ever exist.
    Maplestory is also a 2D side scrolling mmo. Note I also use the term most. There's exceptions but not many. Maple story was still made in a way that didn't require very much money in order to build. An mmo that is more open with a 3D world requires far more maintenance and there's a lot more that can go wrong. There's 3D terrain that people can get stuck in, lag can create holes that people can fall through, etc. Many of these problems don't exist in a 2D environment. If this game was 2D many of us wouldn't be here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arriverderci View Post
    13 isn't as bad as people make it out to be.
    It's old time folks can't handle change in the gaming world. 15 looks awesome as hell. Finally, they are slowly moving away turn-based
    Seriously. I liked 13/2 and my fave is X-2 and X and I will be getting 13-3.
    While I think they should stopped at 13...well...let's not go there.
    Lightning is very well loved in JP. The rest of folks, meh, everyone else comes 2nd.
    But to see Light in every other thing is getting a lil' annoying.
    I want a Kefka FATE.
    Crazy ol' bastard lol..
    Im sorry but the past FF's we no where near as linear as 13 is. And its not just the old time folks as you put it that don't like it.

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    Nomura isn't on this committee, they're really doing this right here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reslin View Post
    The "Mc mmo cash shops" snip
    mc MMO has1/10th the number of servers that FFXIV does at launch and yet will have more than 1/10 the population which defeats your premiss that FFXIV is Superior in set up.

    many mcmmo's launch at 150k mark they will have a few early servers and simply open new ones as the populations increase. they are also 3D games Rappelz,Silk Road,PW are examples of 3d games that launched with
    today Joymax announced details regarding the population of Silkroad Online. The popular free-to-play MMO has garnered over 7,200,000 registered users and is supporting over 100,000 concurrent players on their global...
    not infinitesimal populations also FFXIV boasted 125k concurrent players at launch (the new record) problem was over 30k players were 3102'd during that record.
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