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    pandabearcat's Avatar
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    That doesn't make sense.

    If you are low on mana, that means you were succoring tons (or spamming adloq...which i dunno why you would ever do).

    If you were spamming succor you should've placed a SS, if spamming adloq you should've used lustrate.

    Which is basically...if you are low on mana you should have 0 stacks.

    If you are low on mana and you have unused stacks, that was your own fault that you wasted those potential XD

    So yes, while I agree that if you are low on mana, and somehow have excess stacks, you should use them, it is a horrible practice and means you weren't doing things efficiently.

    Also I guess if lustrate isn't doing more than your physick on a tank, something is very very wrong, or your tank is extremely undergeared compared to you.
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    Harleen Quinzel
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    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    Also I guess if lustrate isn't doing more than your physick on a tank, something is very very wrong, or your tank is extremely undergeared compared to you.
    Lustrate on my paladin tank heals for 1200 or so. My physick non crit heals for 1k+ which means its more if I crit, and my adloquium will always give more mitigation than lustrates heal.

    I am not saying I DON'T use lustrate. I am just saying that there is a time and place for everything. I am not going to blow lustrate on the tank at more than 20% hp and if he is below it I should be mid cast through something to bring them back up. I do happen to use lustrate more often on my warrior tanks due to its effectiveness increasing, but on my paladin I feel like the total gain from sacred soil ends up being a greater use of my stacks.

    I must say I use energy drain much less in coil but I still have it on my bar.

    Sacred soil has to block 20% of your tanks maximum health to beat out lustrate which happens more often than not in coil. So in my eyes my priorities change based on my tank (obviously changing based on situations):
    Warrior: Lustrate > Sacred soil > Energy drain
    Paladin: Sacred soil > Lustrate > Energy drain

    As for gear like I said before if you are healing paladins lustrate doesn't give THAT much more than a physick/adloquium, it just has no cast time and is off the global which makes it great for an OH SHIT button which is why I save it and end up with left over stacks which I use on energy drain if my tanks don't need a top off.
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    Last edited by HarleenQuinzel; 10-22-2013 at 12:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    Why would energy drain even be on your bars?

    Lustrate on the tank saves you more mp by not requiring physicks than energy drain provides.

    So unless you're sitting on an aetherflow and like 3 stacks (which you wouldn't need aetherflow anyway...since you're at max mp), its better to let the tank drop and lustrate rather than keep sustain healing with physicks and use energy drain.
    Energy Drain gives you exactly enough mana for two physics. So it really depends on your gear, and your tanks gear. My Physic heals for ~1k non crit. so i'd get ~2k worth of heals from that one aetherflow stack, Where as lustrate would only heal for 2k if my tank had 10k hp, which none of them do. Energy Drain>Lustrate in term of mana efficiency if your geared.

    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    Also I guess if lustrate isn't doing more than your physick on a tank, something is very very wrong, or your tank is extremely undergeared compared to you.
    See above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swick View Post
    Energy Drain gives you exactly enough mana for two physics. So it really depends on your gear, and your tanks gear. My Physic heals for ~1k non crit. so i'd get ~2k worth of heals from that one aetherflow stack, Where as lustrate would only heal for 2k if my tank had 10k hp, which none of them do. Energy Drain>Lustrate in term of mana efficiency if your geared.
    Well said good sir. I knew energy drain gave more than mana than what physick needs but I was unaware that it was enough for 2. Is that static or is it based on the damage you deal with it? I haven't had time to test it.
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