Can you really guarantee an HQ using NQ items?

[Grundy]

100% HQ on 80Durability items with NQ materials. Requires 370CP(use Food) - Enjoy

<Macro's>

First off, use Steady Hand II before Waste Not, otherwise it's a Waste of Waste Not, this is a pretty basic error? Secondly, Ingenuity II only affect progress, not quality, so use this after Byregot's Blessing, otherwise you're using up a Steady Hand II allocation for no reason. Also, for an 80 durability item, I'd use Masters Mend II at 20 to get 6 synths back. I only use Waste Not for 40 durability materials, and why waste all that CP on Basic Touch?

No offense, if it works for you then go for it, but to me those macro's are barmy.

[Sapphidia]

No offense, if it works for you then go for it, but to me those macro's are barmy.

The point of the macros above is that you use Basic Touch with Steady hand 2 for a 100% success rate. Sure, they seem sub-optimal if you're used to RNG Hasty Touches, but if you have enough control then the above macros are pretty much perfect. As someone above said - 7 Hasty Touches + a boosted Byregots = HQ. If you have enough CP to use seven BASIC touches with SH2, you have the guaranteed 7 touches. Using Waste Not before Steady Hand II is fine because you get FIVE 100% basic touches out of the SH2 at the cost of 1 proc of the Waste Not, which is better in this case as you need only a set amount of Touches.

I'm not sure about the ingenuity II use myself .... set up here it seems to imply that the Byregots will give more quality. I know ingenuity is generally used for progress rather than quality, but doesnt the level of an item also affect how much Quality you gain from a touch? In which case, it's perfect here. If it doesnt, then yes, it's best used just before those careful synth IIs.

[Grundy]

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I can see the logic now I've been thinking about it, I've just always used the Steady Hand II/Hasty Touch method to conserve CP and used + control food. I'll have to play about with numbers more, I'm not sure how much control or craftsmanship I'd need to sacrifice to get the target 350+ CP needed but there is no harm in experimenting. Ingenuity II definately has no affect on quality, only progress. With Ingenuity II and Standard Synth you can complete a Darksteel or Rose Gold Nugget in one turn.