Dark Devices is dead.

[Appleh4x]

You're ignorant to how badly it was tearing the community apart, troll or no troll.

The two sides are trolls (and people that hate leveling efficiently) and people leveling up, I'd rather blist the trolls and not have any drama so I don't see what is tearing everyone apart other than misguided nerdrage because other people hit level 50 without being "hardcore" about it. I consider myself a hardcore gamer in general, and take no offense to other people hitting level 50 in a casual geared MMO.

[rocheetbombe]

The two sides are trolls (and people that hate leveling efficiently) and people leveling up, I'd rather blist the trolls and not have any drama so I don't see what is tearing everyone apart other than misguided nerdrage because other people hit level 50 without being "hardcore" about it. I consider myself a hardcore gamer in general, and take no offense to other people hitting level 50 in a casual geared MMO.

The problem was that both sides have the right of way, and the rage was ridiculous while being the majority. Especially with those new to the fate and go do the objective, and is suddenly blacklisted by half the community and getting death threats among other vile things said to them. It was extremely common and needed to stop. All DD provided was a festering pool of hate.

It's still easy to level to 50 without mob farming them anyways.

[Appleh4x]

The problem was that both sides have the right of way, and the rage was ridiculous while being the majority. Especially with those new to the fate and go do the objective, and is suddenly blacklisted by half the community and getting death threats among other vile things said to them. It was extremely common and needed to stop. All DD provided was a festering pool of hate.

It's still easy to level to 50 without mob farming them anyways.

That's a bunch of bologna, as someone who has spent the majority of their time in FFXIV around the ceruleum processing plant, I can promise you that what you just described is an extreme minority event, probably happened at less than .005% of the DDs on Goblin. People tend to speak pretty clearly about what to and not to do during these FATES, especially at prime hours when a bunch of new people would be there. Ignorance to the chat log isn't a good excuse. If you messed up a mechanic in a dungeon because you didn't listen to your tank before a fight you didn't know about, you'd probably find yourself being criticized at the least, and a lot of players would just leave the duty even. That is the game we play. The people on these forums are huge drama advocates and made it seem like every DD was a cussing match, I'm sure, but that is people on the internet for ya.

[rocheetbombe]

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You realize some people turn off their shouts because of spam? Also, even if the person was told not to kill lambs, he has full right to. Why? Because that's the game we play. Just like people have the right to farm. And believe me, at least on my server, it is NOT a minority event. People foam at the mouth over it.

[Appleh4x]

You realize some people turn off their shouts because of spam? Also, even if the person was told not to kill lambs, he has full right to. Why? Because that's the game we play. Just like people have the right to farm. And believe me, at least on my server, it is NOT a minority event. People foam at the mouth over it.

And you think people who foam at the mouth over other people's bad etiquette (putting their selfish killing of the lambs over an entire zone worth of people trying to level, and wasting HOURS of their lives because this selfish act) are going to change their demeanor and suddenly be BFF with the troll players? No. They will just fight in duties instead, because selfish people will always be selfish, and they will always get called out on it.

[rocheetbombe]

And you think people who foam at the mouth over other people's bad etiquette (putting their selfish killing of the lambs over an entire zone worth of people trying to level, and wasting HOURS of their lives because this selfish act) are going to change their demeanor and suddenly be BFF with the troll players? No. They will just fight in duties instead, because selfish people will always be selfish, and they will always get called out on it.

And guess what? The vicious cycle would have continued had it not been nerfed. Good riddance.

[Appleh4x]

And guess what? The vicious cycle would have continued had it not been nerfed. Good riddance.

The vicious cycle? It was already quelled on my server once all the trolls were blacklisted. People weren't just killing lambs, everyone there knew better. I can see the first 2 weeks of the game it being an issue, but it got to the point where it was an understood concept of the late game, sort of like how paladins should shield bash ifrit's eruptions.