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  1. #31
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    Sylve's Avatar
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    lets Math.
    Its 5am, so i could be a little off in my calculations.
    I'm told 5050 Myths per full set of Myth gear. Or, 16.8 weeks per full suit.
    9 Jobs to gear.
    So, at 35~ minutes per AK run, you're looking at around 5 hours per Job each week to cap your Myths, since its 8~ runs for Myth cap.
    You would need to spend 45 hours a week in AK alone just to get the Myths needed to cap out each week. Meaning an average of 6 hours spent each day in AK just to cap every jobs Myths for that week. Given that it takes 4 months to get a full suit of Myth gear for a single job, You would need to spend 45 hours per week, 6 hours a day for 4 months straight, never missing a day ever. And it would still take you 4 months to get the full Myth set.

    And then congratulations! You have all 9 Jobs decked in Myth gear! 2 months later, major content patch, and you start from scratch, assuming the new currencies have the same 300 weekly limit.

    And that doesn't take into account time spent doing the Relic lines for each job and the 3 weeks on top of each job to get the +1 for it.

    No, i really don't see how having 8 alts for 8 classes works better than having one character with 8 classes.
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  2. #32
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
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    Or just farm Coil and CT for equip.
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  3. #33
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    SchalaZeal's Avatar
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    Schala Zeal
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Or crafted i70 which beats DL by far, and to many, beats i90 with no cap.
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  4. #34
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    Jennica's Avatar
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    Jennica Wennica
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Maybe it's because I was confused by the people (including myself) in my FC that is having no issues gearing multiple jobs on one character - SE is updating this game at a slow pace and even alternating the update cycle (i.e CT > BC > CT > BC etc) Neither will be obsoleted in a fast manner, but the fact Relics exist negates the purpose of getting a primal weapon since they're part of the quest line to get the best weapon which negates (for the most part) their dropped weapon.
    Maybe some of us don't want gear our jobs in trash equip like your FC members. If we were able to access the content then a player could gear BiS on multiple jobs. The way it is setup now is similar to the fatigue system from 1.0.
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  5. #35
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    Ryios Locke
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    Coeurl
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    Gladiator Lv 68
    +1 relic and alagan shield have the EXACT SAME stats except one has +7 acc and one has +7 skill speed. As to which one is BIS depends on if you need ACC or Skill SPeed.
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  6. #36
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    Shaddix Box
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    Hyperion
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    Fisher Lv 29
    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    It means it will take TIME and nothing more, nothing less.
    Yeah you don't get it. It is not possible to spend the time to gear multiple jobs because the game doesn't allow you to do so. Did that confuse you? Maybe it will start making sense soon.
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  7. #37
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    Astraia Hornraven
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    Leviathan
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    I think the problem is less so that you can't gear alts up, and more-so that it's more beneficial to you to level the alt as a second character instead of just having it as a second class/job on the main character.

    It's more beneficial because then you can run Coil on both, and cap tomes on both. The complaint is less about actual gear though, and more about how that little factor diminishes the usefulness of the armory system, and the ability to have all classes/jobs on a single character.
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  8. #38
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    Foregone Conclusion
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    Adamantoise
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I think the people who think myth is only good for the main character are wrong, there is a technical benefit to applying myth directly to an alt while you main prioritize coil drops, because there is less chance of ilvl90 overlap (IE No wasted myth). If you farm coil with a static grp that grp will allow to you gear an alt if they are well coordinated and recognize your desire to gear a specifc alt, its just a simple get in line procedure.

    By the time I'm done gearing 2 classes in full myth tome/coil gear 2.3 will have released adding a new tier of gear and making me have to grind the same 300 cap myths(if not raised) again, restricting me to playing 1 class and taking 5 months to gear a single one. That means by the time you gear up 1-2 jobs, another content patch releases that makes all current gear not the best and introduces a new tier of gear better than current that's also time gated. Since content patches will be every 3-4 months, and it takes 5 months to gear a single job in full myth tome gear, it means you will NEVER BE ABLE TO GEAR MORE THAN A SINGLE JOB BEFORE THE GEAR IS OUTDATED. It is not a matter of "we don't want to put the time/effort in" it's the fact it's literally impossible because of time-gated gearing.
    I think you're forgetting the fact that a whole set of gear for one character has the possibility of dropping in one week of coil (Minus interchangeable accessories). You're pretty much complaining about item randomization and you don't seem to be aware of it. There is a potential of what ever character you want to gear having the items drop for your grp in one week alone! and then your are suddenly next in line for next week chance being what it is.


    And if you really really want to farm coil and farm more myth than the devs intended you too, you can do that too. Create another character it takes a few days to get to 50 afterall. Why do people think this is not an option? You're not forced to level all crafts or what ever on each character, it could be just a battle class character and you have your craft character. All these options are quite simple.
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    Last edited by Earthgaia; 10-21-2013 at 06:15 AM.

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