Standard 30 days $1499

[Jamesruglia]

Hmm... Then again, there isn't necessarily mention regarding the Legacy discount when registering payment normally, is there? Perhaps it is merely a given that a Legacy player's fee wouldn't change?

[Naunet]

True but, Just because nobody reads, that doesn't mean they are not bound to the ToS.

Actually, there's a lot of pushback against MMO (and other video games that use online components) ToS and End User License Agreements in the legal world, so this is debatable. The response to them in the courts has been fairly mixed, though.

(Don't know why I brought this up - just thought I would!)

[Jamesruglia]

So instead of continuing to speculate, I went and looked for myself. Under the transfer service terms, it says more fully:

Service Charges

The World Transfer Service is an optional paid service. Please note that aside from the World Transfer Service fee, service accounts that have suspended recurring payments will be charged a service fee when reactivated.



■World Transfer Service Fee

・$25 per transfer



■Service Fees

・Entry 30 days $12.99

・Standard 30 days $1499

It doesn't look like it says "You agree to be charged this per month, even if you had it for less before". Rather it's a reminder about the standard charges in the event that you had suspended payments.

[Huginn]

True but, Just because nobody reads, that doesn't mean they are not bound to the ToS.

That is not necessarily true in the United States, but it only unbinds the consumer if the terms are intentionally difficult or known to be completely skipped.

[Reslin]

No, the service fee for transfer service is $25 dollars.





True but, Just because nobody reads, that doesn't mean they are not bound to the ToS.

TOS usually doesn't hold up in court.

[ShindaUsagi]

Nobody reads the full Terms of Service anymore. That's how they get ya.

What's the saying?

"Ignorance of the law does not make you above the law". (paraphrasing)

[Reslin]

What's the saying?

"Ignorance of the law does not make you above the law". (paraphrasing)

Except when it comes to TOS. Look it up. Online TOS agreements usually do not hold up in the court of law. It's often thrown out.

[ShindaUsagi]

Except when it comes to TOS. Look it up. Online TOS agreements usually do not hold up in the court of law. It's often thrown out.

Being a bit more literal than I intended but no one is forced to pay for anything but taxes.

[Reslin]

Being a bit more literal than I intended but no one is forced to pay for anything but taxes.

My point is if you do pay and play happily but something really effects you negatively and it's mentioned that this is "Normal in the TOS" it doesn't mean the TOS will truly protect the company. That's all. No, I'm not complaining about SE. I actually disagree with this whole premise because in some ways it means online companies have problems protecting themselves.

[PerrythePlatypus]

I'm not paying $0.00 for red circle lag and 2.5 second cool down. Screw this game.