Welp, 2.1 is going ot be a happy time for warriors!

[Ryougi]

From my understanding of the letter Warrior's Brutal Swing will be getting a lower cool down in favor of making fights like Ifrit where the tank should be responsible for completely negating eruption, as the cool down really prevents a warrior from also legitimately stunning targets for unclear reasons which they want to get rid of.

He's also mentioned that the Warrior's utilization of Wrath's bonus to healing because healers can't heal their additional health pool sufficiently because warriors use their Inner Beast inappropriately. From the allusion it looks as though they're planning on addressing the bonus to healing on wrath without anything on Inner Beast itself.

In summary: lower CD on Brutal Swing and they're going to change how our bonus to healing handles *after* Inner Beast. Anything within these bounds won't be "game breaking" as it sounds as little more than a crutch for warriors with timing problems.

y; we got about 7 topics to change for WAR



That's reinhardt's translation, which was transcribed, translated, and reworded as he was saying it, so nuance is loss, he actually said something to the effect of "We have 7 areas we're looking at for the warrior."

I.e. the IB/BS changes were mentioned, but they are by no means the extent of the changes.

[Hundred]

If they wanted tanks to die on 3 stacks, they'll have to also see if they can a) future proof these changes so when they make mechanics next time around PLD doesn't break them again b) start throwing out unmitigated damage.

[calamityz]

Should we guess what these 7 areas are?

Damage
Mitigation
GCDs
Skills
Cross class Skills
Stats
Coil
???
Profit?

Quite honestly, I don't want to be more OP than paladins. I want to be on equal footing and stick my foot up the asses of people who looked down on us when we outskill these paladins.

[Rhad]

wow… just, wow…
People are complaining that WAR is getting buffed? Really? We don't even know what those buff are?

Let them make the changes, if it doesn't work then voice your concerns… not before.

[Raze_Krauser]

I feel i have to lay down a big "I told you so" to all the chicken$#!% nay-sayners that don't like WAR tanks...

[Illya]

Should we guess what these 7 areas are?

Damage
Mitigation
GCDs
Skills
Cross class Skills
Stats
Coil
???
Profit?

Quite honestly, I don't want to be more OP than paladins. I want to be on equal footing and stick my foot up the asses of people who looked down on us when we outskill these paladins.

Well if you want to guess what the 7 are, it's probably the 7 obviously broken things about WAR:

(1) Damage taken vs. PLD
(2) Effective healing vs. PLD
(3) Wrath mechanics
(4) Defiance
(5) Storm's Eye
(6) Steel Cyclone
(7) Unchained

That doesn't even begin to touch on how terrible WAR CDs are compared to PLD CDs. That needs to be addressed too.

Also, Flash needs to Blind for WAR the same way it does for PLD. In fact all our cross-class skills are an absolute joke because we don't get the bonuses, so our Convalescence, Flash, Second Wind, Awareness, and Mantra are total garbage trash compared to the skills on their respective jobs.

There's a lot of buffing that needs to be done before WAR is on par with PLD. In general, until I can lead a 10 minutes speedrun of WP the way PLD can, I will not be satisfied with whatever buffs Yoshi has in mind. That's the bar I want set for our buffs.

[Anthreas]

I originally wanted to be a warrior, until my brother said, trust me bro you're not going to get any groups as a war, so I switched. Can't wait until they are on par with each other, considering I Leveled both classes. Luckily DL works for both . So all my time gearing my pld isn't for naught. Go war!

[Yagrush]

I originally wanted to be a warrior, until my brother said, trust me bro you're not going to get any groups as a war, so I switched. Can't wait until they are on par with each other, considering I Leveled both classes. Luckily DL works for both . So all my time gearing my pld isn't for naught. Go war!

You shouldn't be having any problems (Barring HM Titan) until Coil, and even then you can squeeze in a spot as a OT in some turns, but yes, extremely happy this is being adressed. Hopefully they will fix the counter-intuitiveness of using our best heal to lose our healing bonus.

[Skull_Angel]

You shouldn't be having any problems (Barring HM Titan) until Coil, and even then you can squeeze in a spot as a OT in some turns, but yes, extremely happy this is being adressed. Hopefully they will fix the counter-intuitiveness of using our best heal to lose our healing bonus.

The current issue with the community (pre-Titan) against WAR tanks is that the higher-end players have already stated "lolWAR" so the largely-uninformed majority see this as "WAR must be a bad tank for everything."; this is followed by the fact that many upcoming tanks seem to have issues with learning the ins-and-outs of their job and PLD is just more forgiving with the strength of it's cool-downs and sustainability of resources.

[Yagrush]

The current issue with the community (pre-Titan) against WAR tanks is that the higher-end players have already stated "lolWAR" so the largely-uninformed majority see this as "WAR must be a bad tank for everything."; this is followed by the fact that many upcoming tanks seem to have issues with learning the ins-and-outs of their job and PLD is just more forgiving with the strength of it's cool-downs and sustainability of resources.

That's a very accurate assessment. Unfortunately, people throw out very sensationalized information (i.e. "War sucks") and out of context, which leads into more misinformation.

Hell, a few days ago during a HM Ifrit run, I was told by a PLD that WARs couldn't tank Ifrit and that "They would be eaten alive". It's getting ridiculous.