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  1. #11
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    LiadansWhisper's Avatar
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    Liadan Summerfield
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Possibly the silliest thread I've seen today.

    I have way more fun as a SCH in WP than I do as a WHM.
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  2. #12
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    Garnatian's Avatar
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    Gaust Euler
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by rocheetbombe View Post
    But it's not THAT strong unless heavily spammed and Shroud of Saints afterwards to try and recover the MP cost. I only use it against the beetles and flan adds on the boss. Your strong point is that since you rely on DoTs for damage, you do far more consecutive damage versus a single target like a boss without wasting away MP spamming one ability like Holy or Stone II.

    It's basically the same thing with Summoner vs Black Mage.
    I can only assume you haven't speedrunned Wanderer's. Holy will be used in EVERY pack. A SCH wouldn't be able to pull this off simply due to the massive set up time and the lack of a AoE stun.

    You wouldn't use Holy on a single target so I'm un-sure why you bring that up. The strong point you mention isn't even a strong point, MP inside boss fights isn't even an issue.
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    Last edited by Garnatian; 10-20-2013 at 03:13 PM.

  3. #13
    Player rocheetbombe's Avatar
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    Astraea Hitaki
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    I can only assume you haven't speedrunned Wanderer's. Holy will be used in EVERY pack. A SCH wouldn't be able to pull this off simply due to the massive set up time and the lack of a AoE stun.
    That is not to be considered an issue. WHM and SCH use two different types of damage. Again, it's no different from Summoner vs Black Mage. Holy isn't going to be nerfed just because of that, nor are SCH going to be buffed just for the purpose of speed runs.

    Arcanist is a DoT class. If you didn't want to use DoTs as your form of damage, you shouldn't have made one. There is nothing wrong with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    You wouldn't use Holy on a single target so I'm un-sure why you bring that up.
    Because I was naming YOUR strengths..... This is starting to sound petty.
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  4. #14
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    Garnatian's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocheetbombe View Post
    That is not to be considered an issue. WHM and SCH use two different types of damage. Again, it's no different from Summoner vs Black Mage. Holy isn't going to be nerfed just because of that, nor are SCH going to be buffed just for the purpose of speed runs.

    Arcanist is a DoT class. If you didn't want to use DoTs as your form of damage, you shouldn't have made one. There is nothing wrong with it.



    Because I was naming YOUR strengths..... This is starting to sound petty.
    Why you think having an abundance of MP is important I'll not ever know, you can only do so many things a second and having an infinite amount of MP won't help you. Also, why do you bring up SMN and BLM? It's not really a good comparison considering a SMN doesn't have to dance in and out of a DPS stance and do other things other than dpsing.

    There's not much I can say to you. You don't seem to quite grasp the differences. As I've said, you look as if you haven't run Wanderer's speedrunned so you don't really have the experience to understand where I am coming from.
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    Last edited by Garnatian; 10-20-2013 at 03:19 PM.

  5. #15
    Player rocheetbombe's Avatar
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    Astraea Hitaki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnatian View Post
    Why you think having an abundance of MP is important I'll not ever know. Also, why do you bring up SMN and BLM? It's not really a good comparsion considering a SMN doesn't have to dance in and out of a DPS stance.

    There's not much I can say to you. You don't seem to quite grasp the differences. As I've said, you look as if you haven't run Wanderer's speedrunned so you don't really have the experience to understand where I am coming from.
    And I don't have much to say to you because you're incredibly ignorant about mechanics.
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocheetbombe View Post
    And I don't have much to say to you because you're incredibly ignorant about mechanics.
    All I can assume is you don't like to think things about your class are overpowered, that's fine.
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  7. #17
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    Zaphir Kalaphir
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    Faerie
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by rocheetbombe View Post
    And I don't have much to say to you because you're incredibly ignorant about mechanics.
    I'm fairly sure this is a troll thread. In which case, grats to the OP. :P

    (If not, then respond to the last post on the previous page. kkthx)
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  8. #18
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    Teraluna's Avatar
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    Tera Luna
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    So your whole post is based on a group of people who want to speed run - when the recent changes by SE (CM) where aimed at removing this. Sorry pal, just because a class has an ability that doesn't fit exactly into to your play style doesn't mean it gets changed.
    This is just plain ridiculous - like your original post and all your subsequent waffle.
    Working as intended - close thread.
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  9. #19
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    sasakusaku's Avatar
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    Sasaku Saku
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    Let me answer the title of this thread.

    It won't take long....

    /takes a deep breath...

    NO!!!

    Next!
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  10. #20
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    King Brohemoth
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    They should nerf all AoEs in the game and turn them into DoTs because my monk sucks in a particular strategy used to complete one dungeon in the game.

    Great logic, OP.
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