So its 850k for Small house.

[Naunet]

Really disappointing. Housing should be something available baseline to everyone; make the gil sink come from bigger and more complex houses and items.

[ReithDynamis]

Really disappointing. Housing should be something available baseline to everyone; make the gil sink come from bigger and more complex houses and items.

Well that's you're opinion and you're welcome to it but I really have to disagree. Housing should be something earned to show your accomplishments. Otherwise every willy-nilly player will be putting down lots of land and a house an not be seen for months on end but we can still see their freaken houses. I'd rather know the people who are sticking around making a time and money commitment putting down houses.

[Naunet]

Well that's you're opinion and you're welcome to it but I really have to disagree. Housing should be something earned to show your accomplishments. Otherwise every willy-nilly player will be putting down lots of land and a house an not be scene for months on end but we can still see their freaken houses. I'd rather know it the people who are sticking around making a time and money commitment putting down houses.

You can still have housing be something one displays accomplishments by without pricing a bunch of people out from the get-go. Rift's dimension system did this perfectly, and it's a hive of dizzying creativity and, for those who can earn it, grandiose display.

[Grodi]

Well that's you're opinion and you're welcome to it but I really have to disagree. Housing should be something earned to show your accomplishments. Otherwise every willy-nilly player will be putting down lots of land and a house an not be seen for months on end but we can still see their freaken houses. I'd rather know the people who are sticking around making a time and money commitment putting down houses.

Being able to work the AH and amassing large amounts of gil is hardly an accomplishment.

[PapesseLudovique]

Well that's you're opinion and you're welcome to it but I really have to disagree. ~SNIP~

The only accomplishment involved in getting a house, is to simply grind up the ridiculous pay wall. What accomplishments are you displaying exactly?

Most other games, make housing accessible, because it's there to be enjoyed. Make the decorations reflect effort. Unique trophies, etc. Don't make getting a house outside the reach of most players. Remember, the number one complaint is lack of things to do at end game. So why take what could be a huge end game activity and hide it behind a joyless, unobtainable (for most) pricetag?

Also you're making a lot of assumptions and acting as if seeing houses of inactive players in any way ruins your game. As if most people even pay attention to that.

[AridElf]

Well that's you're opinion and you're welcome to it but I really have to disagree. Housing should be something earned to show your accomplishments. Otherwise every willy-nilly player will be putting down lots of land and a house an not be seen for months on end but we can still see their freaken houses. I'd rather know the people who are sticking around making a time and money commitment putting down houses.

I think being able to afford the house itself is an accomplishment if it stays at that price.

[Shinalia]

Really disappointing. Housing should be something available baseline to everyone; make the gil sink come from bigger and more complex houses and items.

Definitely going to disagree with you here.

Okay, more of a somewhat disagree. What I'm taking issue with is that the entire population should have THIS specific type of housing baseline. No, this is a goal to be attained in the long term. It's a luxury. For baseline housing we DO already get our Inn rooms, which provide Sanctuary, Retainer, event armory, and cutscene review, more services than simply logging out in say, Wineport, for example. Those services are given for merely the cost of a few hours worth of questing.

In short, yes, some sort of housing is and should be provided for little to no effort. But if you want to get fancy and custom, you should have to work yer buns off for it and that's what we're getting.

I'm personally okay with this.

[Trife]

Really disappointing. Housing should be something available baseline to everyone; make the gil sink come from bigger and more complex houses and items.

No.... Housing should take work and should be an accomplishment. Why is it that everyone wants handouts these days?

The only accomplishment involved in getting a house, is to simply grind up the ridiculous pay wall. What accomplishments are you displaying exactly?

Most other games, make housing accessible, because it's there to be enjoyed. Make the decorations reflect effort. Unique trophies, etc. Don't make getting a house outside the reach of most players. Remember, the number one complaint is lack of things to do at end game. So why take what could be a huge end game activity and hide it behind a joyless, unobtainable (for most) pricetag?

Also you're making a lot of assumptions and acting as if seeing houses of inactive players in any way ruins your game. As if most people even pay attention to that.

There is a lot more to this game than just end-game already. Let's not forget crafting/gathering. SE shouldn't just give away houses if you don't want to play the whole game for what it is. Sorry, MMO's involve more than just dungeon grinds. Other things are grinds as well, just like housing will be.

I'm glad that it will require some work and effort.

Am I the only one concerned about the long wait for personal housing? 1-3 months is doable, but 6 months (after 2.1 drops) seems like an eternity. I guess there is some technical reason for the delay, but it is just odd that content that naturally should be a selling point to players and has been worked on for so long is being restricted to most players. No FC is going to give everyone house designing/furniture placement rights. It would be like playing the same Sims game with 10-20 other people. Complete Chaos. Instead, it will be FC leaders and officers making most of the aesthetic decisions, as it should be to avoid that. It seems that many players in FCs are going to be removed from the design portion of housing.

Am I the only one that see's this as good thing? Now I'll have time to acquire a healthy bank account and get a start on all my crafts before housing is implemented. Just chill and let the game develop, sheesh....

Why does everything have to be "RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!"

At the same time why make a highly anticipated feature and make it prohibitively expensive?

I agree with everyone that has been saying, if these are the prices for personal housing, expect Gil seller spam to get worse. He'll if they are going to stubbornly stick to the "plot of land are finite" and if they make them re-salable, the only way to get one will be through Gil sellers

850K is nothing. I have almost that and I've been putting very little effort into making gil. Just selling a few things here and there and selling what I can from leveling my crafts. If I actually put a concerted effort into making profit rather than building my crafts right now, I'd have 10X more gil than I currently do.

I can only imagine how easy it'll be to make gill when I can use all my time/materials collected for profit rather than leveling new crafts.

6 months after 2.1 is not acceptable. Housing should have been available at release. It's another smack in the face that they are releasing FC housing only...Not everyone is in an FC. With the very limited space in this game we need housing now. I won't last 6 more months without a house. Please get er done faster! I've already saved my 1 million gil. I'm ready to buy my house!

Save more and get a bigger house!

[Naunet]

No.... Housing should take work and should be an accomplishment. Why is it that everyone wants handouts these days?

You don't understand. This is an aspect of game content that, presumably, will encompass a not insignificant amount of developer time. It hurts no one to provide everyone with a baseline, small plot that they can either play around with or choose to upgrade from if they have the ambition (and funds). This design functions beautifully in Rift's dimensions. It lets everyone enjoy what is a huge draw for many players, while simultaneously providing great things to work towards.

it should be a status thing to be able to have one.
If everybody and their mom owns a house it will mean nothing at the end more than just a simple side hobby for people to spend money on once in a while

Offering a basic plot to everyone baseline and status symbols are not mutually exclusive ideas. It doesn't take a lot of thought to realize that. The owning of a house isn't the status - it's what your house is and looks like that should imply the "status".

[mmcsky]

Offering a basic plot to everyone baseline and status symbols are not mutually exclusive ideas. It doesn't take a lot of thought to realize that. The owning of a house isn't the status - it's what your house is and looks like that should imply the "status".

The beautiful thing about freedom of speech is that allows us to have our own opinion regardless of real facts.

With that said, I hope that the american economical system would think like you but like many things copied off life we can agree that socialism is hardly something that Eorzea knows at the moment ( outrageous vendor prices anyone?) and should reflect the housing system.

With that said, I hope the empire takes over and we all have free housing! YAY!