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    Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
    SE owns these songs and has all licensing agreements to them, they could do what they want with it.
    I understand that, but I don't believe they do anything to the music.

    Edit: I should say, think about this: If they were going to change various aspects of Uematsu's tracks, first of all, they would need someone with great compositional skill on board. If they have that person to begin with, why not just use the insider composer to begin with, rather than searching outside for a composer? I don't believe they tampered with Uematsu's tracks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toshimoog View Post
    I understand that, but I don't believe they do anything to the music.
    I have no concrete proof that SE chops up the music but if you watch all the interviews with Nobuo Uematsu you would know the pride he takes in his music scores. Then look at all his work with the FF XIV songs in Distant Worlds, and i come to the conclusion that SE either chopped the music or put heavy restrictions on Uematsu when developing the songs for the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
    I have no concrete proof that SE chops up the music but if you watch all the interviews with Nobuo Uematsu you would know the pride he takes in his music scores. Then look at all his work with the FF XIV songs in Distant Worlds, and i come to the conclusion that SE either chopped the music or put heavy restrictions on Uematsu when developing the songs for the game.
    He can easily decide to re-arrange his pieces for orchestra for projects like Distant Worlds. They have to be simple and forever-looping to be put into a video game as background music, or else the piece would end, maybe restart, and it would sound awkward for a second (this does happen in some games). He creates looped pieces on the computer for the games he's worked on, then he creates a new score for orchestra arrangements, with new varieties and such.

    In short, both the music you hear in all of the games as well as the epic orchestral arrangements you hear on Distant Worlds are music straight out of Uematsu's brain. It's not difficult for a composer to take something and re-arrange it, granted he has the prior experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toshimoog View Post
    He can easily decide to re-arrange his pieces for orchestra for projects like Distant Worlds. They have to be simple and forever-looping to be put into a video game as background music, or else the piece would end, maybe restart, and it would sound awkward for a second (this does happen in some games). He creates looped pieces on the computer for the games he's worked on, then he creates a new score for orchestra arrangements, with new varieties and such.

    In short, both the music you hear in all of the games as well as the epic orchestral arrangements you hear on Distant Worlds are music straight out of Uematsu's brain. It's not difficult for a composer to take something and re-arrange it, granted he has the prior experience.
    QFT ^

    Please stop the conspiration theories.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilean View Post
    QFT ^

    Please stop the conspiration theories.


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    Quote Originally Posted by toshimoog View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by toshimoog View Post
    He can easily decide to re-arrange his pieces for orchestra for projects like Distant Worlds. They have to be simple and forever-looping to be put into a video game as background music, or else the piece would end, maybe restart, and it would sound awkward for a second (this does happen in some games). He creates looped pieces on the computer for the games he's worked on, then he creates a new score for orchestra arrangements, with new varieties and such.

    In short, both the music you hear in all of the games as well as the epic orchestral arrangements you hear on Distant Worlds are music straight out of Uematsu's brain. It's not difficult for a composer to take something and re-arrange it, granted he has the prior experience.
    Let me erase the preconceived notion that Uematsu develops the game tracks before the orchestral, because it varies.

    I understand that a games track needs to loop but that does not account for how piss poor of quality the renditions for the games were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
    Let me erase the preconceived notion that Uematsu develops the game tracks before the orchestral, because it varies.

    I understand that a games track needs to loop but that does not account for how piss poor of quality the renditions for the games were.
    That's because the quality of midi back then was piss poor
    Midi today is way better, as you can very well see with all the new game music that's out now. Most of the music you hear on FFXIV is still midi, just really good quality midi. Back in 1997, midi wasn't as great, and that's why it sounds so meh in FF7. Also, the game disc could only hold so large of music files, so the less quality the sounds were, the smaller the file would be.

    I also don't mean to sound like a up-nosed jackass, but I want to add that I write music as well, both using electronic midi arrangements and writing scores for orchestra too. I have a fair amount of experience with how this works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toshimoog View Post
    That's because the quality of midi back then was piss poor
    Midi today is way better, as you can very well see with all the new game music that's out now. Most of the music you hear on FFXIV is still midi, just really good quality midi. Back in 1997, midi wasn't as great, and that's why it sounds so meh in FF7. Also, the game disc could only hold so large of music files, so the less quality the sounds were, the smaller the file would be.

    I also don't mean to sound like a up-nosed jackass, but I want to add that I write music as well, both using electronic midi arrangements and writing scores for orchestra too. I have a fair amount of experience with how this works.
    do you think the games OST is fine as is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bled View Post
    do you think the games OST is fine as is?
    For FFXIV? I think it's pretty good, just needs more tracks, especially since the zones are so large, maybe having three or four tracks for different areas in the zone would work nicely. Maybe have different battle tracks for dungeon fights (and separate music for each region's dungeons like they do for the normal battle themes). But so far, the quality of the music we hear now is good in my opinion. There's just too few tracks still.
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