Easiest DPS to play for the lazy?

[RoosterAgathos]

From: The People Against the Wussification of Eorzea

Any DPS job can be a lazy one. There is however NO job you can be lazy on and not have a NOTABLY lower numbers then everyone else. The last thing you want to do is pick a job that is 'supposed' to have High DPS in and be lazy. You will not last long in any group.

So Yes, like everyone in this tread has said pick a bard. Be lazy and get told how awful you are at your job and come back in the forums and QQ how elitist everyone is..

I swear the mentality of people.

[Nooblet]

If you want responsibility in raids, don't play bard. That's not saying they need to be responsible.. but they likely will be requested to. I would much rather have ANY pug(random player) DPS over a pug(random player) bard, unless of course the silences are taken care of by a Bard or two already in group.

Also not really relating to topic(kinda)... I find it faceroll easy on WHM doing titan, having sprint up for super easy dodging, on brd I actually have to pay attention.

Saying being responsible for interrupts on bard doesn't make it a harder class to play is pretty horrible logic, and being mobile dps you will likely also be responsible for slimes on turn 1.

Being able to sprint and not hurting your DPS makes any mechanic easier, +1 to BLM being easier.

[Nooblet]

No DPS in FFXIV is complicated compared to most other games, If saying BRD is so much easier than your class makes you feel somehow better about yourself and your shortcomings.... by all means keep saying it. Fact is, this is a thread about being lazy dps.. You aren't going to want to be bard, because most likely you WILL be responsible for more things than just DPS(which is the opposite of lazy).

[Rilr]

I am a bard. I am lazy. I press 1 2 3 4 and still do decent damage. Very difficult class. Oh yea, sometimes I press silence when needed.

[Rahuzeru]

Loving all the bards saying their class isnt easy because they have interrupt end game. Compared to what the rest of the classes do during a raid, yes still is easiest. God forbid you have to use a certain skill at a certain time...

[Nooblet]

Loving all the bards saying their class isnt easy because they have interrupt end game. Compared to what the rest of the classes do during a raid, yes still is easiest. God forbid you have to use a certain skill at a certain time...

Never said it was hard. Please explain what all these other classes do during a raid that is so difficult. The skill level needed to succeed is low in ffxiv compared*to many other games. Bards typically have more responsability, which isn't usually something that a lazy player would want. That's all I'm saying.... your class is easy too.

[McDizz]

Bard by far and away, they no real rotation - just hitting buttons that come off cooldown, it's a matter of 4 buttons the vast majority of the time. Weaving in a few buffs when they're available.

They do have to sing songs, which is super responsible, because you have to hit another button when someone tells you to - or if you're super pro, by watching people's mana levels and hitting it yourself.

I can't think of any other MMO where the "cap" was much higher - it's the same stuff different interface.

Monk ends up being "not lazy" because you have to be extremely active and mobile to maximize dps, you also have 4 different debuffs to watch, as well as 2 different buffs on yourself.
Dragoon as I would say comes up as 2nd worst for a lazy person as while they don't have as much to watch as a monk, they are still very, very mobile to maximize dps and have a fairly long series of combos to go through and remember for maximizing also...

BLM/SMN - not sure which is easier for the lazy

[Allyrion]

Never said it was hard. Please explain what all these other classes do during a raid that is so difficult. The skill level needed to succeed is low in ffxiv compared*to many other games. Bards typically have more responsability, which isn't usually something that a lazy player would want. That's all I'm saying.... your class is easy too.

I've played EQ, WoW, Rift, SWTOR, Guild Wars 2, Tera, DCUO and Aion. I've tried most of the classes in (if not all, really). I can say definitively that none of them is as challenging as my monk to play optimally. Not only is there a high skill ceiling, but there's a low floor. Switching between fists preemptively, doing mantra at the right time, managing 3 dots, 2 buffs and 1 debuff while working within set cycles of attacks is just more than what most other games asked for (from my experience).

Bard, however, plays like pretty much every class in WoW. It's actually quite familiar. It's dumbed down dps so you can focus a little more on utility (which I suppose balances it). Similar to WoW, where the rotations are easy so you can focus on more complicated boss mechanics. I have said repeatedly, I have no problem with that. BLM was quite easy too (one of the reasons, I rerolled monk). However, I would contend that a 3 second cast on your spam spell is painful. I'll give respect to any good BLM just for dealing with that.

So what games are you talking about that are more complicated? What class in that game and can you source a rotation? I've played quite a bit (though there's ALOT more out there) but I still don't see much games asking for more. Rift was the closest one, but I didn't like that for other reasons.

[EasymodeX]

I've played EQ, WoW, Rift, SWTOR, Guild Wars 2, Tera, DCUO and Aion. I've tried most of the classes in (if not all, really). I can say definitively that none of them is as challenging as my monk to play optimally.

There are/were some Rift specs that could match it; namely the old AS/RS Rogue spec, or the BD Rogue spec back in HK doing an optimal sequence. IIRC the Stormcaller mage spec back then was also pretty rough to maximize. Also, I never played one but purportedly the WoW Feral Druid was pretty good backwhen.

SWTOR Mara/Sent was ok but more of a UI thing with so many buttons (not really hard per se, just annoying).

FWIW I think you're overrating the MNK complexity. The debuff and buffs you mention don't really need to be tracked -- or at least they can be tracked minimally, together. They're mostly automatic once you get into the habit. The positioning and DOTs are the main things since they have different timing.

[Woggers]

Just my 2 cents here, yes almost every BLM you will play with will have a similar rotation, just small tweaks to it. At end game BLM jumps in difficulty. Knowing where the safest places to stand are so you can cast w/o interruption, knowing what kind of attacks the mobs/adds have so you can put up either Manawall/ward so you won't be one shotted. Throwing up virus on bosses so tank doesn't get hammered by huge damage. Using Flare effectively in rotation so you are doing the most amount of damage w/o creating too much hate and spending long periods standing around because of room due to poor rotation management. Making sure mobs are kept slept if needed. If you're just doing FIII/FI>BIII>Thunder and nothing else, you're probably not doing your job or your pt any justice.