Do people on this forum even know what fun IS?

[Majidah]

ffxiv maps and enemies weren't designed for jump to have any use. why would we want it?
it would do nothing but make bad visuals. look at demon's souls, they didn't have jump and they were shibby.

[BloodLotus]

SE has to choose between...

- keep making the current fanbase happy

or

- make everything right and have a lot of new players


or they can do it both. I bet these nerds not going anywhere even if they add jumping, voice overs and other features to the game. or even if they want to leave, they have nowhere to go but FFXI and SE will has new players more than people who leave

There isn't a choice like that at all.

I'm not sure if you actually actively play 14 or just troll the forums, but for argument's sake I'll pretend you play.

If they make the game enjoyable to the people that play (you) would you tell people that don't play about 14? You most likely would.

That in turn would bring in people who quit playing along with new players to see for themselves if the game is more enjoyable than when they left.

That cycle would increase on itself and make 14 a nice comeback success.

[Xmbei]

doesn't work that way. So many people I have told hey come back it has made some changes that are enjoyable. They say no it is still shitty I am never coming back. Now if they make drastic changes (which most likely need to be done to attract new and returning people) than that is what needs to be done, what it is now is not what people want except the select few in the community.

[BloodLotus]

doesn't work that way. So many people I have told hey come back it has made some changes that are enjoyable. They say no it is still shitty I am never coming back. Now if they make drastic changes (which most likely need to be done to attract new and returning people) than that is what needs to be done, what it is now is not what people want except the select few in the community.

So many people =\= everyone

The changes that have been made already, while good, are hardly worthy of calling someone back to the game. That's your own fault for over selling the changes that have been made.

Drastic changes... have you read the most recent letter from the producer?

[acidmax]

I can not understand this whole issue about jumping ...
if you are one of those wanting to get the jump ... u can jump, if you are against, simply do not jump... simple as that!
stop being so petty and shallow

[Evangela]

I can not understand this whole issue about jumping ...
if you are one of those wanting to get the jump ... u can jump, if you are against, simply do not jump... simple as that!
stop being so petty and shallow

the fact is they don't want to see other jump

that's a personal hate

they think jumping is something for low class MMOs and they want to keep FFXIV a high class game for themselves

[Nuru]

they think jumping is something for low class MMOs and they want to keep FFXIV a high class game

see what i did there? :P

[RabidSquirrel]

"Fun" may be a subjective term, but do you know what isn't subjective? The majority of what people find to be "fun."

[Moth]

Keep calm and ask what is fun.

[BloodLotus]

"Fun" may be a subjective term, but do you know what isn't subjective? The majority of what people find to be "fun."

It depends on who that majority is.

Different majorities have different opinions.

Is something that is fun for the majority of folks 55+ fun for the majority of folks under 25?