The markets, stalls, price listing and undercutting. (A suggestion)

[Leeloo]

From the other perspective, that reads as "I can't rip people off for as much as I used to" = D

[Oscillate_Wildly]

Hardly. In any case I do NPC or toss armour I can't use or don't want any more knowing that in order to sell it I'd have to slash the price 60%

My friend is an armoursmith and is having problems selling enough of her crafted gear to turn a profit to continue crafting. This is in part due to how oversaturated this market is with gear. Especially since all these new NM's drop them by the bucket load. There's no need for crafters anymore it seems, everything drops ready made. I know there was a thread posted about this earlier but crafters who take crafting seriously are being marginalised by all these drops.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

Because he is most likely not looking for a profit or a lot of gil, he most likely just wants to get rid of the item. I do this all the time with gear, I'll throw it up for stupidly low amount just to get rid of it, its better than NPCing

Not that it's a huge surprise to anyone, but you are part of the problem then and you give an instance to why the system doesn't work. There is no reason why the pricing should be thrown off because some peon is too lazy to actually price it reasonably under the last seller. Or actually, at a price that not only makes sense due to the cost of materials and the time farming them if they include something more rare compared to most crafts.

/eye roll.

[viion]

I make a lot of profit from Arm, not as much as Alch but a decent amount because my build costs are near 0, I farm everything I need and I also have Arm for any glues and such and my brother does all blacksmith stuff and I also have a LW/Weaver friend if need be who will do things for free (as I break clusters for free).

This type of collaboration gets my build costs to near nothing and I reap the total profits, anyone who's helped me get free shards so its win win haha. thus I can afford to undercut, (i wouldnt 60% on stuff i craft though).

Not that it's a huge surprise to anyone, but you are part of the problem then

I dont see how im part of the problem because I do not see what the problem is. I'm allowed to sell anything I want at any price I want, why should I not be allowed to do that? If you're sad someone is undercutting you, just leave the item there and hopefully it will sell when the under cutters has sold because like I said the buyer is not going to pay more when there is the same thing for less.

There is also the issue of what you see fit price for an item is not what another will see. You might find an item tough to get and sell it high due to that but another guy could of gotten it very easily or even given to them, and will sell it low.

[Rentahamster]

I make lots of money, and I don't even craft.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

I dont see how im part of the problem because I do not see what the problem is. I'm allowed to sell anything I want at any price I want, why should I not be allowed to do that? If you're sad someone is undercutting you, just leave the item there and hopefully it will sell when the under cutters has sold because like I said the buyer is not going to pay more when there is the same thing for less.

That is the ignorant excuse I was expecting. It's like when people try to justify their extremely ignorant comments by saying they have the freedom of speech. While this is true, it doesn't mean they're not a despicable person. So, while it is true you have the freedom to sell anything your tiny brain can gauge as being a respectable price, it certainly doesn't excuse you from being a lazy and annoying sales person.

[Jieddo]

if the undercutting is so intolerable then why not purchase the undercut items and then sell them at your inflated rates. You will have a temporary monopoly on the market. Businesses do this all the time when they cannot compete with a smaller company, its easier to buy them out if you are unwilling to have a price war.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

if the undercutting is so intolerable then why not purchase the undercut items and then sell them at your inflated rates. You will have a temporary monopoly on the market. Businesses do this all the time when they cannot compete with a smaller company, its easier to buy them out if you are unwilling to have a price war.

This is extremely risky. I know a linkshell that attempted to do this and it completely back fired. Luckily, it was a linkshell deserved it, but that is beside the point.

[Rentahamster]

This is extremely risky. I know a linkshell that attempted to do this and it completely back fired. Luckily, it was a linkshell deserved it, but that is beside the point.

Newsflash: that's the market telling you that the item was overpriced to begin with.

[Leeloo]

That is the ignorant excuse I was expecting. It's like when people try to justify their extremely ignorant comments by saying they have the freedom of speech. While this is true, it doesn't mean they're not a despicable person. So, while it is true you have the freedom to sell anything your tiny brain can gauge as being a respectable price, it certainly doesn't excuse you from being a lazy and annoying sales person.

Sounds ignorant.