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  1. #61
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    calamityz's Avatar
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    Moon Speak
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by thinkmad View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZr2coYAt4w

    .... and cue PLD re-rolls.

    basically, it's 2 PLD vs 2 WAR, 1 BRD, 1 DRG. and yep, 2 PLD took down the whole party, and the camera PLD isn't even playing well, lol. the best (or dis-heartening) part is when 2 WAR was on the PLD and they couldn't do squat to him. yeah, the 2 WARs were playing like shiet, but a 2v1... ;-/
    I'm just here wondering why one of the wars were spamming overpower.

    Oh and the PLD is the best geared person there as far as I can tell.
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  2. #62
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    Marauder Shields
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by calamityz View Post
    I'm just here wondering why one of the wars were spamming overpower.

    Oh and the PLD is the best geared person there as far as I can tell.
    pause the video at 7:10, the PLD with AF(45/50) and Garuda sword had better dmg and more kills.
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  3. #63
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    Wootzie Taru
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    War has a role to play in coils. They are good for sub tanking and dispatching the Adds. Just from what I notice.
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  4. #64
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    Zaiken's Avatar
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    Celestia Raine
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Wow look at that video where the Warrior get no love, he get poke from the behind with a stick from the Dragoon, the Archer put some arrow in his knee, while eating the Paladin Relic sword and the Warrior barely do any damage to the Paladin because the Scholar keep healing him, then the Warrior Turn around just to be Limit Break to death by the Dragoon. So funny when you watch the Video again.

    Yeah, the Warrior get no love and Mercy from the staff.
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  5. #65
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    Adelphe's Avatar
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    Reizon Grey
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    One of the People i play with most in game is a Warrior, we do dungeons together but like many have said when i do pug without him, and get a paladin tank, its so much easier to heal, player skill might have alittle to do with it, but alot of warriors are so obsessed with there huge amount of HP and dont think they need to work on there own skill, i often get agro off my friend, and people say thats your fault, but i'm sorry if i did not heal him like i was he'd be dead.

    I do believe alot of tanks like to push the blame on us healers, but i've seen really good tanks, and when u play with a bad one u just know straight away.
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  6. #66
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    Xensai's Avatar
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    Winnie Blues
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 60
    The only Flaw i see in Warrior is that we have no Mitigation Putting our stats into VIT gives us roughly 500 HP which is useful but healers cry cause we take too much damage we put our stats into STR yeah we do more damage and mitigate more but its only 25% instead of 23%, i was even contemplating going a DEX build until i read that it only gives 1% parry rate. PLD has better mitigation with the DEX/STR stat both affecting shield block and parry, i know Yoshi P says WAR is really powerful but with what we have atm i dont see it our HP pool is massive and a decent WHM can get a free cure II out of stoneskin but its really not enough. Once i get more AF2/Allagan im hoping to see a change WAR for life!!!
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  7. #67
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    HumsterMKX's Avatar
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    Helinin Landgravine
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    Masamune
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    Fisher Lv 70
    I play both. Pld is better for me due to 1 simple ability. Shield Bash. War's version don't cut it at all.

    Not forgetting if you add Foresight from WAR, lol. 20%, 30%, 40% Dmg reduction.

    And Having the ability to block more is great. AND the ability to pacify the mob

    And.... no wait there is more then 1 simple ability....

    Sorry guys I failed my Maths and sucks at counting
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  8. #68
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    Illyasviel Einzbern
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by thinkmad View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZr2coYAt4w

    .... and cue PLD re-rolls.

    basically, it's 2 PLD vs 2 WAR, 1 BRD, 1 DRG. and yep, 2 PLD took down the whole party, and the camera PLD isn't even playing well, lol. the best (or dis-heartening) part is when 2 WAR was on the PLD and they couldn't do squat to him. yeah, the 2 WARs were playing like shiet, but a 2v1... ;-/
    Anybody who ever played Tera knows that tank classes are naturally OP in PvP and need to be toned down.

    In the case of Tera, Bluehole's genius solution to PvP balance was to continually buff Lancers and make them unkillable unless you found the dumbest one on Earth who couldn't figure out how to turn to face you and block. Meanwhile the Lancer would do his Leash or Giga-Leash on you and your buddies, keep you stunned with his Shield Bash, and if he was sufficiently geared he would just kill you in a single normal attack chain. If he wasn't, his Sorceror buddy would draw a circle underneath you while you stood there helpless and then a big mushroom cloud would appear and you would instantly die.

    Another game where this was a problem was Aion. The only way you could kill a Templar was if he stood there and let you do it. People would go 4v1 and 5v1 on Templars, and the Templar would just pop his Invincibility skill (this sound familiar?) and laugh at everyone whaling on him. Eventually if he got bored he would put his wings out and fly away, if he didn't he could just wait until his attackers got bored and put their wings out to fly away instead because while the Templar couldn't kill any of them, they couldn't kill him either.
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    Last edited by Illya; 10-17-2013 at 05:28 PM.

  9. #69
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    Selemar Lymosari
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    Leviathan
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    Weaver Lv 50
    I'm a main White mage healer... and I like healing warriors more (for dungeons mostly)... More healers would stop complaining about warriors if they actually understood the class and stopped topping them off all the time. Let the self-heals/etc work... if you're healing 100% of their hp, 100% of the time.. it's your fault (for dungeons mostly, reiterated)

    Understand what the buff's tanks have on them, and what their cooldowns do. If you're topping off a tank every time they use a proactive cooldown to help you out... why should they even bother using them.
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    Last edited by Selemar; 10-17-2013 at 05:32 PM. Reason: insanity

  10. #70
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    Raine Jaeger
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Obviously this PvP promotional video also means Bard is underpowered too because it shows a Bard die. And apparently WHMs are underpowered healers, because it couldn't keep the WAR up. /sarcasm

    Why is the FFXIV community the dumbest collective of fail on the internet?
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