PLD is a waste on anything other than Titan and Coil.

[wonka11]

based on no applicable experience because you've leveled your own Conjurer to an impressive lv3EDIT: Nice touch with the new hashtag theme you have going.

Do you believe in the theory of relativity because you've got a doctorate in physics, or because you're taking someone with a doctorate in physics word for it?

#priceless #gotem #logic

[Paikis]

Warriors while tanking will do 15-30% more single target damage than Paladins will while tanking. As the number of targets increases, so does that percentage.
Warriors DPSing single targets will do about the same damage as Paladins DPSing (but only if you give the PLD the benefit of the WAR's debuff). Again, as targets increase, so does Warrior damage.

but...

Paladins have the advantage in effective hitpoints and ability to reduce incoming damage.

Both tanks are viable in Coil right up until Turn 5. Warriors will require slightly more healing, but fights will be over slightly faster as well, reducing the number of chances for things to go pear-shaped.

[Gamemako]

Someones just a tad angry about being proven wrong. Tell me more about your extensive knowledge of this game and whats possible.

You linked an item dropped by Twintania. Nobody can acquire this item right now because Twintania has not been defeated legitimately at all.

[wonka11]

You linked an item dropped by Twintania. Nobody can acquire this item right now because Twintania has not been defeated legitimately at all.

P.S. you want to talk about fiction, let's talk about 250 DPS for a marauder. There is no way a marauder will even outdps a WAR, given the Marauder will be limited to Garuda or a crafted weapon, which will be significantly less damage than Bravura +1.

Still looks relevant to me based on their comment. The funny thing about words when constructed into a sentence which builds into a concept is that all parts are subject to a review to their claim to knowledge.

Read up on Descartes bro, might do ya some good.

[Lord_Zlatan]

Hash tagging in threads is pretty lame...

wonka, before you engaged in tomfoolery with some other posters, I agreed w you. Dealing damage is essential for warriors, end of story. The warrior reacts to situations in battle while tge paladin excels at preempting things.

to say that one is strictly better than the other is silly. Both can do most content, but in different ways while excelling at different things

[Giantbane]

Still looks relevant to me based on their comment. The funny thing about words when constructed into a sentence which builds into a concept is that all parts are subject to a review to their claim to knowledge.

Read up on Descartes bro, might do ya some good.

The implied context of the discussion is progressing through current content. And thus, given that the axe drops at the very end of current content, you may not use it to peform the goal of getting to the end of said content. So, for all intents and purposes, that axe does not exist within the implied context of the conversation.

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right...

[Raminax]

This thread is inane and you should all feel ashamed for participating in this "discussion" of "facts". <_<

Oh well, time to spite a few tanks by spamming Medica II. You brought this upon yourselves. <3

[Stryker]

I wouldn't say PLD's are a waste on everything else, but it's situational like you said. Just like in many other games. Each tank has its strong suit.

I'm sure once CT comes out Wars will be on par with PLD for end game stuff. PLD's excel in minimizing damage and single target tanking, wars are good for weaker encounters that are higher in numbers.

[Giantbane]

Hash tagging in threads is pretty lame...

wonka, before you engaged in tomfoolery with some other posters, I agreed w you. Dealing damage is essential for warriors, end of story. The warrior reacts to situations in battle while tge paladin excels at preempting things.

to say that one is strictly better than the other is silly. Both can do most content, but in different ways while excelling at different things

The problem most people have is the respective ability of the WAR and PLD to serve the role of a tank.

The primary role of a tank is to hold threat and not die. DPS is secondary.

PLD doesn't appear to have much of a problem holding threat and are better at not dying. This is ignoring the other tools they have that directly cater to most current content, aka spammable stun + a silence. A WAR's special tools (extra HP, reduced healing debuff, and the ability to bind a target while it's being DPS'd) is not currently useful for any real progression content, which adds a little salt to the wound.

[fistantalius]

This is another reason for WAR is best suited for being the off tank. A WAR has more damage then a PLD that is true. But.. a PLD has self heals. Though the self heals does not do a high amount of healing. It is enough to self sustain in the case the WHM is raising a party member. Plus why would you want a PLD as a secondary tank when the damage output is lower. Bit again both has a purpose and a reason and some better then others. But really. Do we need this? But honestly a PLD has CNJ and GLA. and because of the CNJ cross over this is best as the main tank.. Honestly I have both a PLD and a MRD and I like them both.