Even SE staff hates Warriors...

[Slatervonjager]

With all the heals that Warriors need, I can't even imagine what White Mages have to go through MP wise to keep a warrior up. Thank god as a scholar we have Aether Flow!!

The problem you're having, is your not understanding the fact that WARs have higher HP. It's not so much them taking more damage, it's them having a higher HP pool that needs to be restored. And to be fair, the only people that I ever see complain about WAR, are on the forums. In game, i can't begin to count how many times I've seen healer curse PLDs because of their poor group aggro holding. Healers constantly getting attacked because PLD's can't hold a whole group anywhere near as well as a WAR can.

It's not bad, Infuriate increases incoming heal potency.

Toss in mantra being used, and the WAR taking convalesence, and BAM, right as rain.

[ShivenCasull]

It's not bad, Infuriate increases incoming heal potency.

I've never had any issues with WAR tanks that were properly geared.

Not to mention a buffed inner beast can heal for over 2000HP. ^^ Not enough warriors use their self healing effectively.

[CurlyBruce]

Err, please do not combine Sentinel and Rampart with Hallowed Ground.

Was being silly with that last bit, just emphasizing that PLD has mitigation abilities that WAR does not.

Still doesn't explain why you think Hallowed Ground would make you invincible to a LB when it doesn't make you invincible to many bosses special attacks :T

Please feel free to name these magical attacks that aren't instant wipe moves that Hallowed Ground fails to block.

Yeah, you killed with this. You need to look up the word Mitigation. Preventing damage, is not mitigating the damage. Also, you're assuming that every DD is dumb enough to not ignore an invincibility skill.

Also, PLDs dont' easily get to 5k HP, WARs easily get to 5k and beyond. Not saying PLD doesn't get to 5k, cause they do, but it's not an easy feat for them to get it right now, especially when you compare it WAR.

mit·i·ga·tion
ˌmitəˈgāSHən/
noun
noun: mitigation

1.
the action of reducing the severity, seriousness, or painfulness of something.

Pretty sure reducing damage taken by 20%>20%>40%>100% is mitigating it. Also I don't know what PLDs you are used to but full DL PLD reaches about 5.4-5.6k HP and DL isn't exactly difficult to get.

[Tiggy]

They didn't say they were changing skills for PVP, they said they were adding skills that would remove Stun/Silence/etc. and make you temporarily immune. Read the description on the video.

Actually they did say this. A few months ago.

[Slatervonjager]

Pretty sure reducing damage taken by 20%>20%>40%>100% is mitigating it.

Wrong you are.

Mitigation is the act of reducing, not eliminating. reducing the damage is mitigation. outright stopping damage, is not mitigating, it's prevention. If you're not taking any damage, then what is there to mitigate? Funny how you googled it, and still got it wrong.

And again, it's not easy for them to hit 5K. DL isn't hard to get, no, but it takes awhile to get decked out in complete DL. So no, it's not easy for them to hit 5K or greater.

[CurlyBruce]

Actually they did say this. A few months ago.

Actually all they said "months ago" was that there would be specific PvP moves and this was while in development. Now on the verge of release the only info they have given relating to PVP only skills is CC removal/immunity to prevent balance issues with people spamming Sleep/Tri-Disaster.

[Reinheart]

Off topic but on the video @ 1:02 DRG is fighting PLD?? I thought DRG is in PLD's team or PLD & DRG fighting a invisible WAR? Since next scene they show them both attacking the WAR.

[Amyas]

Please feel free to name these magical attacks that aren't instant wipe moves that Hallowed Ground fails to block.

I was talking about insta-wipe attacks. Also the Devs did say that they were going to change skills for pvp :P
" What we've decided to do is create two separate sets of skills for that players will have the freedom to interchange depending on whether they’re playing PvE or PvP. These PvP actions will be obtained through participation in PVP"

[Remn]

Any PLD that has any combination of AK/WP/DL or darksteel would easily break 5K HP provide that they has 30VIT bonus. It the 6K barrier that take a ton of work for PLD, where WAR can easily get pass 6K.

[CurlyBruce]

Wrong you are.

Mitigation is the act of reducing, not eliminating. reducing the damage is mitigation. outright stopping damage, is not mitigating, it's prevention. If you're not taking any damage, then what is there to mitigate? Funny how you googled it, and still got it wrong.

And again, it's not easy for them to hit 5K. DL isn't hard to get, no, but it takes awhile to get decked out in complete DL. So no, it's not easy for them to hit 5K or greater.

Are you seriously arguing semantics with me? Regardless of what you call it the PLD will be taking less damage than a WAR would. For the record if you take something that normally does 12k and make it do zero that's still reduction. You could also flip it and argue that reducing damage by 20% is preventing 20% of that damage. The point is damage you normally would have taken is lower.