Can we please get a perma-death server?

[hyko]

Would be interesting. 24 man raid. Main tank goes DC. 24 new characters have to be made lol

Problem with perma-death in this game is that in its current design there is no backup options for when a healer (or tank) dies. Half way through a boss fight and healer lags, derps or straight up DC? There is almost nothing your party can do except await death. You can run around, pop every cooldown and skill you have and throw in a few cross class heals but in most cases you'd be lucky to survive for maybe more than a minute or two and still no where near taking that boss down. In a game like Diablo, even on hardcore multiplayer and someone messes up, there is a chance I can still make it out if I'm skilled enough. Not here.
As a result everyone would avoid dungeons as much as humanly possible and FATE grind and do easy open world content all the way to 50. Then run CM cause it's easy and almost zero chance someone actually dies and gear up to full DL. Oh wait....how is that any different from now >_<

The seeing high levels with good gear achievement part of your hardcore server won't even matter until you see people in Coil gear (maybe Relic due to Titan). But I guess with a smaller community, people who "cheated" their way to 50 would be publicly shamed maybe. Though that is something that still has to be self enforced.

Hardcore servers and mechanics can be fun and exciting but with how this game is setup it doesn't work particular well unfortunately. That's just my opinion on the matter.

[Lovehandle]

Actually I would enjoy seeing other high leveled people and people with nice gear.

Or hear about the leading FC's clearing content.

I prob would be no where near any of the best players but man woul di have a blast with my friends.

Its about RP and fun.

But I guess you can keep trying to make HC servers sounds lame because you don't like the idea.

So many negative people these days.

[Keres]

They'll implement this right after they finish implementing the no-jump servers, the no-vanity-gear servers, the no-Lightning-FATE servers, the PS3-only servers, and the v1.0 servers. While it's easy to say "just implement dedicated servers for that, what harm would that cause?", the problem is that this community loves to suggest that about everything. SE hasn't even endorsed a Roleplaying server, and that's just a text label; what odds do you think that we'll ever see servers with actual different mechanical rulesets?

As a fan of permadeath in other genres, I still don't think it has much of a place in a mainstream MMO. Even if a few people would enjoy it, the amount of time SE would need to spend to set up dedicated servers, add in the necessary support into the game for it, and test it wouldn't even come close to being recouped by the increase in revenue they'd get because of it. If anything, as others have said, it'd probably just lead to some high-profile complaints about "I lost my 500-hour character to server lag! I demand a rollback!"

[FabledMage]

SE is not going to fork over the money or resources for a venture that isn't going to make them money. Unless those wanting this can come up with the numbers to support the cost for equipment and changing the game itself to support this style of play it's not going to happen. It's not a matter of I don't like it therefor no-one should get to do it. It's a matter of not having the numbers to support the effort.

I think its a matter of you dont like the idea so you are gonna sit in this thread repeating yourself over and over almost like a troll.

[Zaels]

While we're at it lets go implement no-cutscene servers and forced cutscene servers.

[Rivienne]

So... yeah. Why so much passive aggression and belittling in these forums? The OP makes a valid suggestion. There is no reason to be defensive and attempt to dismiss her because you don't like the idea, or don't see how it could be done. Let it stand on its own rights. There might be valid reason not to implement it, but that isn't a reason to dismiss it out of hand.

Also, not to be passive aggressive myself but as a serious point: as someone with actual experience as a developer, the number of times I hear people say "it can't be done because <reason>" when I can think of many ways it could be, is really frustrating. Leave the "can it be done" to the developers, they are the ones who have to implement any idea, not you. Leave the cost metrics of "is it worth it" to the management team. That is their job. Suggest ideas, maybe even specific ideas. But the final say and "how hard/can" is not the communities to decide. This is not to say don't bring up your considerations, but do it respectfully as "these might be some problems to consider" as opposed "it can't be done because".

Let the community reps do their job of passing on valid feedback, let the devs reply feasibility and impact on overall schedule. They probably will say no on this one, maybe they won't even bother with a response, but maybe they say "oh yeah, we already have the ability to do this now and think it a great idea" There is no reason to turn a simple, direct suggestion to the developers into a negative thread.

I would never touch perma-death. Not even close. I think it is a terrible idea. But for those who like it, it is viable. Just like those who wish for a dedicated role playing server. I wouldn't join one of those either. But I can respect those who wish to do so. The lag/disconnect issues would be a problem. But if you wish to re-grind every few weeks because of a disconnect, who am I to judge?

If someone posts a suggested change that would affect me that I disagree with, I will certainly make a counterpoint, but ideas like this don't affect anyone except those who want them. So let it go.
(Also before someone brings up "developer resources" again, just let it go. That is again, a project management problem. No good manager would prioritize a niche server over mass issues. That doesn't mean they can't consider any new idea at all.)

[Zaels]

I think its a matter of you dont like the idea so you are gonna sit in this thread repeating yourself over and over almost like a troll.

Ah yes, the classic "you don't agree with my idea therefore you must be a troll" argument.

Never gets old.

[FabledMage]

While we're at it lets go implement no-cutscene servers and forced cutscene servers.

Thank you for your 1000th useless reply. We get it you dont like his idea, please stop trolling.

[Vitto011]

with my crappy internet speed, no please xD.

[Zaels]

Thank you for your 1000th useless reply. We get it you dont like his idea, please stop trolling.

And do tell me what makes your posts any more useful?