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  1. #21
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    Maku Haikasu
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    They state it like this in the English translation "An issue wherein players were unable to use their pet’s actions while casting a spell." The word issue means it was a bug. The steady guard switching may actually be intended even if it is stupid. But this apparently (if they are just covering their asses for making a silly mechanic or if it was a real bug we will never know) was a bug according to them. If they considered the steady/guard switching a bug I am sure it would have been in this hot fix.
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    可愛い悪魔

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    SE write "An issue wherein blah blah" for everything they change. I don't take it seriously personally.

    How is faerie wasting aoe regen during obey intended. That is definitely a bug or at least something worthy of a fix. They seriously cannot expect schs to press steady after every embrace. It is a hand killer lol. Casting embrace and physick/adlo constantly is uncomfortable enough =P. Sch is carpal tunnel job >_>.
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    Last edited by sharazisspecial; 10-16-2013 at 11:52 AM.

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    You have obviously never played StarCraft competitively. THAT is carpal tunnel. I have a feeling the wasting of Whispering Dawn is indeed intended. On obey the faeries use all abilities that have a healing aspect to them. Embrace and WD. The fact that Selene doesn't use her silence move that is in the same location on the tool bar as WD kinda points to it being intended even if it is stupid.
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    Noctrin Noire
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    The fix was great for selene. There's still the issue with eos where if i manually embrace it pops out of steady and blows all CDs. Spamming steady after every embrace is annoying. It kinda annoys me they didn't fix that.. I still use eos on steady for turn 1, so i can blow her CDs after split when the stacks get high and i need the healing boost.
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    Natsu Sousuke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noctrin View Post
    The fix was great for selene. There's still the issue with eos where if i manually embrace it pops out of steady and blows all CDs. Spamming steady after every embrace is annoying. It kinda annoys me they didn't fix that.. I still use eos on steady for turn 1, so i can blow her CDs after split when the stacks get high and i need the healing boost.
    Would have to agree with you. Once SCH manually cast embrace, the dumb fairy would blow all her CDs unnecessarily. They need to fix this as well and i will be a happy SCH

    Quote Originally Posted by sharazisspecial View Post
    SE write "An issue wherein blah blah" for everything they change. I don't take it seriously personally.

    How is faerie wasting aoe regen during obey intended. That is definitely a bug or at least something worthy of a fix. They seriously cannot expect schs to press steady after every embrace. It is a hand killer lol. Casting embrace and physick/adlo constantly is uncomfortable enough =P. Sch is carpal tunnel job >_>.
    Yup, as if SCH have only 3 button to spam. Seriously, SCH need to utilize more skills(button) than any other class and we are doing it while dodging AOE's and stuff. Clicking steady every other embrace would just add to how much more button i need to spam to conserve her precious 60sec AOE heal which if you are not paying attention to one of her embrace cast, it will be wasted.
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    Last edited by Marcusow86; 10-16-2013 at 01:00 PM.

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    Morthis Nerzhal
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharazisspecial View Post
    Your post is just a pointless flame with no purpose and no information. I dont mind being flamed if whoever doing so is enlightening me and showing me points i may off not being taking into account.
    Your post was pointless flame too, I'm just joining the fun. Don't try to play this off as educational, this is an "I told you so" thread using ridiculous leaps in logic.

    The only thing educational about this thread is how to construct a straw man argument. I guess I'll give credit where credit is due then: Congratulations on furthering our understanding of informal fallacies, you've done the world a great service.
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    Drosmier Moo
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    I don't think it was mentioned yet, but what they could do is cannibalize the system they used in The Last Remnant, where you could set triggers and whatnot for the various party members. It would have to use damn near that whole interface, but anyhow you could have it so that the primary tank would be the focus and if that targets health went below 80%, for example, the fairy would cast Embrace on it. If the tank is above that criteria, then it would look at the rest of the party and heal if they're also under a certain threshold. Using this side bar you could set various healing triggers, what spell takes priority and what have you...

    It's been a few years since I played that game, but I think that was how you could set up each of the other characters in your party so you didn't have to micromanage them the way we do with the fairy. In my opinion that system worked pretty damn well, I can't see any reason against just duplicating it for Scholars.
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  8. #28
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    Mj Bad
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    Brynhildr
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    I noticed that as well. Once you click on ability to use. The Fairy goes all out with abilities. So after you click Embrace or some other spell you have to immediately click on Steady or potentially waste the cooldown abilities.
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    Hakase Shinonome
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    While I also think triggers for pets would make playing SCH alot easier, it kinda kills half the fun IMO. Micro-managing the faeries is delightful in its own way.

    Also as a side note, just for fun I ran AK with my FC the other day and set my character to Follow a BLM friend to see if Eos can, by herself heal through the trash mobs. As long as the person you're following doesn't move around too much during encounters (Faeries prioritize moving over healing) it's definitely possible to afk heal through all the trash xD Now if we had auto-triggers that worked above the 50% threshold, I'm almost entirely convinced they can even heal through bosses.
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    Ara Hoshizora
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    Quality of life fix. Highly doubt it's an overall 20-30% increase to throughput as you outrageously claim. SCH has always been amazing at keeping tanks up thanks to Lustrate and Adlo.
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