This is proof that sch was completely underpowered

[ApolloGenX]

I don't deny that all things held equal, a fix will result in a net increase in power.

I don't think of that as a direct buff, but a fix to a mechanic... I guess they could fix that and nerf something else to prevent increase in power. Still, that is not the same thing as a direct nominal increase to the power of an ability.

That is why I support SCH fixes now, and not direct buffs. If you have direct buffs, then things get fixed, you have to have nerfs to keep from being OP. Fix things first - then see if buffs are needed.

-..and there are still a lot of fixes that are needed.

[Myrhn]

Please explain to me how fixing something that was broken/not working as intended, is a buff?

[nocks]

Also, I really doubt it's a 20-30% boost to healing. In a lot of situations, the faery was already spamming heals. This is mainly a quality of life adjustment that helps Scholar to trigger key abilities. It will probably give a 1-10% boost in situations where the Scholar is using the faery to manually spam heals on the tank. You could already time it pretty easily as it was pre-patch by always casting embrace before physick.

[sharazisspecial]

It makes sch consistent which was why they were inferior tank healers before hot fix.

When you get to coil. You wont be completing any fight if you start healing the tank after he hits 75% hp. Which is when the faerie will start doing embrace "reliably". You should not be letting your tank get too low in the first place.

Very often you want to keep targets above a hp% and if you are then your faerie is not healing. You also want to cast your heals before tank has taken damage so the heal lands as soon as he does take damage. Instantly healing him.

There is also the issue of the faerie healing other targets/you over the tank since their hp% drops faster even though they dont need a heal, have a regen effect on them Or they are about to receive a heal from the other healer.

Now after the fix-buff sch can guarantee an embrace hitting the tank every 3 seconds even if the tank is full hp. Also can guarantee these embraces while healing every 2.4 seconds themselves since they can command the faerie while casting.

[Rainsford]

SCH has always been able to heavily out-heal a WHM. Most SCH's would keep their Fairy on /heel, use Eos and juggle Steady (so basically doing it as wrong as you possibly could).

A Sch using Selene on Obey and placing her in the middle of the group was always able to get spam-healing out of her. The fix is nice for pre-casting on tanks, but she was already a healing monster when she was used correctly.

[shadowrell_d-_-b]

SCH has always been able to heavily out-heal a WHM. Most SCH's would keep their Fairy on /heel, use Eos and juggle Steady (so basically doing it as wrong as you possibly could).

^ this I don't see this as a matter of was SCH a better tank healer before the hotfix im 100% sure SCH was the better tank healer before the hotfix. my experience has been me (the SCH in Titan HM and COIL) drastically out healing my WHM teammate buy nearly 20k or so that's not even counting EOs who was putting up 60+k heals (on boss fights alone).

this hot fix just allows SCH and SMN to play to their full potential, but the fairy has always been OP if MICRO'd well! A well placed fairy on steady can easily keep the tank topped off, this fix was needed among many other things that would help the pet AI, still I feel things are balanced now more than before as WHM will always be the better raid healer but SCH has ALWAYS been the better tank healer period!

[Morthis]

All the greedy whm saying that sch is completely balanced and fine l2p. Have been proven wrong by SE themselves

Do you think a class that is completely balanced to whm would receive basically around 20%- 30% throughput boost to single target healing?

Before update Sch had spell speed as wasted stat(which is on their relic and af2) since they had to have a gcd around 3-3.5 seconds because they had to wait for the faerie(who has a 3 sec gcd and doesnt benefit from spell speed) to become available to command it to embrace.

Now sch can spam physick/adlo to their hearts content every 2.4 seconds while mashing embrace. There is pretty much no more wasted time during sch healing anymore.

You should probably just stop posting, I'm afraid you're gonna hurt yourself if you try to think about this any further.

[sharazisspecial]

A well placed fairy on steady can easily keep the tank topped off

Faerie can solo heal amdalapor keep while you go full time dps. Just using leeches occasionally. I always play sch if i want to relax and mythology farm akeep.
But it is because amdalpor keep doesn't require much hps. Especially aoe hps. You could probally have a smn healer or a naked whm/sch with decent weapon and still complete it.

Embrace is around 250 single target potency heal every x seconds which is like 2 regen strength or 1 divine sealed regen both definately not enough to keep a tank up for major fights. Fights where you need a certain amount of HPS in a short period of time constantly

You should probably just stop posting, I'm afraid you're gonna hurt yourself if you try to think about this any further.

You are the one who should stop posting at least i state what is wrong with sch and how it has changed. Which is still information that people can see. When i post i generally explain why i think something is underpowered. I said pre fix that sch often wasted spell speed due to them waiting for manual embrace for optimal tank healing hps. That they were very inconsistent due to faerie ai and not being completely in control. Now they dont have to. They always be at optimal tank healing hps. Which is a huge buff.

Your post is just a pointless flame with no purpose and no information. I dont mind being flamed if whoever doing so is enlightening me and showing me points i may off not being taking into account.

^ this I don't see this as a matter of was SCH a better tank healer before the hotfix im 100% sure SCH was the better tank healer before the hotfix. my experience has been me (the SCH in Titan HM and COIL) drastically out healing my WHM teammate buy nearly 20k or so that's not even counting EOs who was putting up 60+k heals (on boss fights alone).

You want the sch to heal more so the whm can conserve mana they can use on stoneskin, cure 2 bombing or aoe healing.
It is best to work with each others strengths and not try to top the meters. Though if you are a sch who is doing alot of healing even if it overhealing that is fine because alot of it is "free" and your mana return is better.

There is also the threat issue that whm have during the start of the fights. During this stage whm will generally stick to cure especially in pugs where the tank is undergeared or not the best at threat generation. SE seem to design fights with this in mind. Phase 1 of every boss seems to be a joke or at least require very little healing.

[Maku]

This hot fix was proof that SE fd up and had a bug/glitch with our fairy. Nothing else.

[sharazisspecial]

This hot fix was proof that SE fd up and had a bug/glitch with our fairy. Nothing else.

It could be but also it may of been a design choice originally that they to change because it was the best way they thought to fix sch lack of pet control.

Previously noone could use 2 off gcd abilties at the same time but now SCH can use off gcd faerie abilities while casting. Perhaps this means in the future they may let us use lustrate/aetherflow/rouse while casting or least aetherflow and lustrate at the same time. Theres plenty of threads which complain about abilities not being used at the same time.

SE could of "fixed" sch by making steady permanent or letting us toggle recast of individual abilities but they choose to fix sch in a way that buffs its consistent healing and gives sch alot more healing potential. So i think they wanted to buff sch.

Sch can now do some things that whm cant which is rouse embrace which is like 850-1200 every 3 seconds on tanks while succor spamming aoe healing the raid. Or spot heal the raid with pet while chain spamming the tank. Or embrace spam raid/tank whilst dpsing/ressing. Things sch couldn't reliably/efficiently do if SE simply choose a different way to fix .