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  1. #71
    Player Risae's Avatar
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    Risae Nyan
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    Louisoix
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Do you even know how much time it would take to code this? Jesus, time is money and they don't have time to fix content which is already here.
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  2. #72
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    Arcangelo Titalius
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Yeah, I can definitely get behind this. Its great that you can have every class on just one character, but with how the lockouts work/Meth Cap it pretty much forces you to make another character just for the extra Lockout/Cap. I dont feel that it should be unlimited, as that would make DL pretty much pointless. But making it a per class cap would be nice but make it really tedious for some people, or you could make the cap be to where you could get at least get 1 piece of Meth gear per week.
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  3. #73
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    firepixiedarien's Avatar
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    Jugs Ofholyness
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    Exodus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkimi View Post
    This has been discussed quite a bit and the general consensus is that it would just get abused. People would clear 1-4 then drag their FC members through one at a time to pick up 6 pieces of loot. Or sell turns 1-4 for millions of gil.

    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    Problem with "helping" other people with coil is it can easily be exploited.

    A group of 8 complete Coil one, then 7 of them proceed to run 1 new person each time allowing them all to obtain 1 loot each. They then rotate on a weekly basis as to who will get the 1 loot this time and continue this til they obtain all the gear.

    "Can't do hard content? Join an LS or a FC you anti-social person!"

    *Joins a FC*

    "Uh sorry, helping you - a lesser-geared FRIEND - goes against the spirit of the game, which are elitist people obtaining elitist gear then talking in their elitist voice chat all day about how great they all are and not helping anyone outside of their elitist group which includes other people in the same elitist FC."

    You have no say in who I choose to help. It is my game, my subscription fee, my free time. You cannot force me to not help my friends.
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    Last edited by firepixiedarien; 10-16-2013 at 05:04 AM.

  4. #74
    Player Shiyo's Avatar
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    Shiyo Kozuki
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Thank you for your continued support, I hope something is done in 2.1 to resolve this issue!
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  5. #75
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    Vade Archonte
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Risae View Post
    Do you even know how much time it would take to code this? Jesus, time is money and they don't have time to fix content which is already here.
    You're right, that's makes it ok for them to leave it as it is. Same with every other problem that crops up in the game right?
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  6. #76
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    Shaenrael Calgarawyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by firepixiedarien View Post
    "Can't do hard content? Join an LS or a FC you anti-social person!"

    *Joins a FC*

    "Uh sorry, helping you - a lesser-geared FRIEND - goes against the spirit of the game, which are elitist people obtaining elitist gear then talking in their elitist voice chat all day about how great they all are and not helping anyone outside of their elitist group which includes other people in the same elitist FC."
    You have no say in who I choose to help. It is my game, my subscription fee, my free time. You cannot force me to not help my friends.
    You completely missed the point of those posts. Congratulations.

    First off "Helping" generally means the other person is contributing. You're not "helping" your AF geared friend through Coil, you're carrying him through coil.

    And second, you completely missed the point. Under a system like this a group of 16 players could, effectively, get 60 loot drops from coil per week. Currently the most drops 16 people can get is 12. That would be so insanely broken it wouldn't be funny. This idea is good in spirit but it would not work in practice. It would completely screw up the game's progression, and encourage 7-carry-1 parties to an extreme degree, and I would imagine that is not healthy for the game.
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  7. #77
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    Zael Cresnah
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisakiSatomi View Post
    i70 Crafts costs millions, AK isn't even comparable.
    Then how did I made titan more than 5 times with just 4 pieces of DL and the rest AK, I even made coil 1 and 2 with AK parts (I still do...), the difference between AK and DL is minimum.
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  8. #78
    Player Shiyo's Avatar
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    Shiyo Kozuki
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    Doing coil right now wishing I could play my other jobs inside ; ;
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  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hachiko View Post
    You're not "helping" your AF geared friend through Coil, you're carrying him through coil.

    Under a system like this a group of 16 players could, effectively, get 60 loot drops from coil per week. Currently the most drops 16 people can get is 12. That would be so insanely broken it wouldn't be funny. It would completely screw up the game's progression, and encourage 7-carry-1 parties to an extreme degree, and I would imagine that is not healthy for the game.
    I'm sorry, but each person can only see one loot window a week per the suggestion.

    Not healthy for the game? lol And me as a tank being unable to help another good friend of mine from a different FC even though I get NO REWARD for doing so is healthy too, right?

    These so-called carries of yours, you won't play with them? Since you have already found your own lil tight group to do it with, so whatever I do is none of your business.

    Plus, my LS has an extreme amount of tanks, but only 3 heals and 7 deeps! So it's cool that all those tanks and 1 heals sit on the side eh? That's healthy for the game too huh?
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    Last edited by firepixiedarien; 10-16-2013 at 11:00 AM.

  10. #80
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    Misaki Satomi
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 8
    Quote Originally Posted by ZaelC View Post
    Then how did I made titan more than 5 times with just 4 pieces of DL and the rest AK, I even made coil 1 and 2 with AK parts (I still do...), the difference between AK and DL is minimum.
    I can do Titan in AF gear. Using dungeons as benchmarks is stupid, it's gear, it's the stats. It doesn't matter if the gear is doable or not for this certain content.
    And having a few AK gear with almost everything i70+ doesn't mean full AK gear.
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    Last edited by MisakiSatomi; 10-16-2013 at 11:04 AM.

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