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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed_N_Ants View Post
    This is the most ignorant comment I have read yet... Fantasia is a liquid that lets you change the appearance of your character... It's doesn't add skills or any special effect it lets you change the way your character looks... How can you compare that to gear? And how does that affect you or a group? Thats like saying yeah if you shave your head im gonna be effected... Maybe you should know what your talking about before you start talking...
    How does it affect you that a tank that you never ever will play with, buys a i110 set from the item mall? It is starting to sound like: "Neither things really affect me, but you can't have that but you can have the other thing, simply because I say so, sometimes I will even call you "troll" to prove my point".

    And again before someone else points towards the "buuuuut, buuut, thats paytoooowiiiin": which competition would that person be winning? There is no pvp, and even if there was, the item mall set can be made to not be allowed in PvP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HurtigeKarl View Post
    How does it affect you that a tank that you never ever will play with, buys a i110 set from the item mall? It is starting to sound like: "Neither things really affect me, but you can't have that but you can have the other thing, simply because I say so, sometimes I will even call you "troll" to prove my point".

    And again before someone else points towards the "buuuuut, buuut, thats paytoooowiiiin": which competition would that person be winning? There is no pvp, and even if there was, the item mall set can be made to not be allowed in PvP.
    Because we could be racing for world/server first. Even if he doesn't care, I might. We are also competing for group spots. You say we might never meet, but there is no way of knowing that at all. That is how it is different, even though this is a PVE game, we are in competition to some degree.
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    Last edited by DerpyCubone; 10-16-2013 at 09:53 AM. Reason: I suck at spelling

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerpyCubone View Post
    Because we could be racing for world/server first. Even if he doesn't care, I might. We are also competing for group spots. You say we might never meet, but there is no way of knowing that at all. That is how it is different, even though this is a PVE game, we are in competition to some degree.
    A fix to deal with racing first, which I find to be a valid concern: SquareEnix could simply state that players who use such gear do not count as server first, or just lock the gear out from content for which there has not been a server first yet.

    As for competing for group spots: there is a shortage of tanks, the competition is therefore minimal. If we are going to take consideration to such minimal effect, we may as well take consideration to those who find it immersion-breaking to see people change their entire body. In a FF game, story and immersion should triumph competitiveness in order of importance.

    Finally, if people find it important to compete about PvE-related things, then it is very much valid to compete about aesthetics-related things, which is another reason for why neither items that help you in the pve of a game in any form or things that affects the aesthetics of your character or your surroundings should ever be purchasable in an "Item mall".

    And if a person finds it ridiculous to compete in aesthetics, then I can simply point to any RL fashion contest. Furthermore, I would also point out that for hardcore PvPers, competing in PvE is laughable .
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    Quote Originally Posted by HurtigeKarl View Post
    Made smaller for fittings!.
    There is a shortage to tanks true, but the endgame FCs will always have a good supply, those are the ones competing and mostly between those guilds. There is no race between avg player X and avg player Y, so your correct there. This is just more an small amount of people that enjoy the race.

    The immersion thing goes both ways for RPers. Some will want no one to change, some will want to change. Not possible to please both groups 100% there.

    For the fashion show... in RL your allowed to change how you look whenever you want, so your example doesn't work there.. If I want to dress up as a Miqo'te one day, walk on my knees and be a Lallafell for lunch, and put on some stilts and be a Roegadyn for Dinner I can. Then tomorrow I can be some kinda lizard wizard for a fashion contest!

    And for hardcore PvErs, competing in PvP is laughable.
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