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    The difference in the log after a single HQ hand in (aka could have been 3x more for a single leve):





    You are wrong.

    No idea why it went up by 2616 and not 2691, but it still proves my point.

    Edit, having checked my gil as well, it appears a single HQ hand in for that leve pays 2616, hence the log goes up by 2616, despite the NPC stating 2691.
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    Last edited by scarebearz; 10-16-2013 at 07:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subhuman View Post
    I don't really know how to reply to this..not only does it come close to 400k, it is well over. I didn't even do every leve available to me, I had probably 50 left over, and had that amount. I can't explain how it added up if it adds the base only because it wasn't something I was actively tracking, but just something I noticed one day and thought it was funny. I can't confirm or deny that right now, but I can tell you I have never cheated with that amount and again, wasn't suspended. Maybe its time to admit you could be wrong though since I have already proven your original numbers were way off that you were very certain of.

    But.. the original point was over scarebearz, who falls under the threshold you just admitted to.
    1308 average is what Scarebearz would have needed BASE using all of 51 days of leaves. The one she posted was 800something base but to be fair there are higher ones, but not high enough to average 1308.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordjoosie View Post
    1308 average is what Scarebearz would have needed BASE using all of 51 days of leaves. The one she posted was 800something base but to be fair there are higher ones, but not high enough to average 1308.
    Again, your calculations are off. You still aren't assuming triple leves correctly. 500 base gil would be 1500 already for a triple, and that is low. That is if the base were only added, which scarez just proved is wrong. Look at the posts above again, sorry I am slow on the edits.

    I don't know how much more I can reinforce how wrong you are over this. Even going by numbers you admit to which are wrong, scare falls under legit amount. Me and scare are both way under the true amount you could earn, I suggest you suck up your pride and find a different avenue of attack. I don't like being so rude, but thats the reply you earn when you ignorantly label someone a cheater. I am sure you wouldn't care to be called such.
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    Last edited by Subhuman; 10-16-2013 at 07:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    The difference in the log after a single HQ hand in:





    You are wrong.
    You don't owe me I know, but could you do one more, then check your log quickly afterwards? When I did mine I was 91,666 before, 92,189 after, and just now looking again, 93,235. Guess the bonus adds to log after the base. So I apologize. Hopefully you take the time out to check so you'll know I'm not a total d-bag, I really did check before posting. Didn't expect the gil to be added to log separately.
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    2691 gilx3=8073 gil

    398736 gil / 8073 gil = 49.39 leves

    This would make sense if this was the only leve you did. Ever. Easiest way to settle this, show us your leve completion count.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-croft View Post
    2691 gilx3=8073 gil

    398736 gil / 8073 gil = 49.39 leves

    This would make sense if this was the only leve you did. Ever. Easiest way to settle this, show us your leve completion count.
    Now add in the fact that scare could have done over 300 leves by the time of that post if they started in open beta. Obviously, not all are going to be that high, but you can start to see how it is legit.

    And in reply to scarebearz below - Yeah, that is the funny part. No crafter does them for the gil, it isn't worth your time. Being labeled a cheater off of the gil earned from leves in the amount in question is laughable. Why would a dedicated crafter cheat 300-400k gil from leves when they could have earned that in 1 day just crafting?
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    Last edited by Subhuman; 10-16-2013 at 07:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-croft View Post
    2691 gilx3=8073 gil

    398736 gil / 8073 gil = 49.39 leves

    This would make sense if this was the only leve you did. Ever. Easiest way to settle this, show us your leve completion count.
    Who said this was the only leve I did?

    In fact before today I had never done this one, it just happens I had the mats for this one available.

    I was not trying to make gil from leve's, only doing ones that gave me the best crafting exp, aka 3x hand in's.

    Nor did I say I did only 50 leve's, you get 6 per day, so 50 leve's is only like 9 days or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordjoosie View Post
    You don't owe me I know, but could you do one more, then check your log quickly afterwards? When I did mine I was 91,666 before, 92,189 after, and just now looking again, 93,235. Guess the bonus adds to log after the base. So I apologize. Hopefully you take the time out to check so you'll know I'm not a total d-bag, I really did check before posting. Didn't expect the gil to be added to log separately.
    You need to re-open the log page for it to update...

    If you leave the log up while you hand in, the total remains unchanged, until you re-load the page.

    Quote Originally Posted by lordjoosie View Post
    So I apologize.
    Accepted, just please next time you accuse someone of being an exploiter/cheat, make sure your facts are correct.

    I have not cheated and was wrongly suspended etc, I'm sure you can guess how annoying the previous posts were when you have actually been playing legit.


    P.s. Soon I'll probably reach my post limit and not be able to reply.
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    Last edited by scarebearz; 10-16-2013 at 07:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    Who said this was the only leve I did?

    In fact before today I had never done this one, it just happens I had the mats for this one available.

    I was not trying to make gil from leve's, only doing ones that gave me the best crafting exp, aka 3x hand in's.

    Nor did I say I did only 50 leve's, you get 6 per day, so 50 leve's is only like 9 days or so.
    Wasn't really questioning you, but you have doubters. It takes 17 days to refill your leves to 100 from 0. 9 days to get 54 leves from 0. I would guess you have used around 200 leves which is possible at this point in time considering launch till now and all the triple turn ins. How close is my guess?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    You need to re-open the log page for it to update...

    If you leave the log up while you hand in, the total remains unchanged, until you re-load the page.



    Accepted, just please next time you accuse someone of being an exploiter/cheat, make sure your facts are correct.

    I have not cheated and was wrongly suspended etc, I'm sure you can guess how annoying the previous posts were when you have actually been playing legit.


    P.s. Soon I'll probably reach my post limit and not be able to reply.
    Yea, the whole situation bothers me, and when I thought I saw proof of at least 1 person in the wrong, I jumped too fast. It looked at first glance that people had been screwed and there was some dirtbag making them all look like liars.
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