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  1. #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    You have to wonder how some peoples brains actually function.

    Have you ever done a high level triple HQ hand in crafting leve?

    It's around 4-5k gil for 1 leve.

    Clueless people trash talking genuine players due to sheer ignorance is part of why this community is failing.

    If your sure I'm exploiting THEN GET A GM TO INVESTIGATE MY ACCOUNT, LIKE I'VE BEEN ASKING ALL ALONG!
    I was posting a similar reply about triple turn in leves but you beat me to it. I had even more earned around that time from leves, approx 450k. There is plenty of people like myself who did a majority of their leves doing HQ triple turn ins for crafting. The only cherry picking done was picking the best triple leve by xp for every tier, not even by gil. If you do some real calculations with all the facts joosie you will see that the max amount you could have earned was way over that screenshot. Try this calculation - add in your original number, then triple it for only doing triples, then add another 200% gil reward for HQ. Even that is short of max, because you are lowballing the amount of gil. Not to mention, the amount of leves you are going off of is all wrong. People who made their characters during the open beta earned leves from august 17th, and the days the game were offline still counted, meaning some people started open beta even with a lot of leves already.

    Thats 51 days of leves by the time of that screenshot you quoted, earning 6 leves per day. Even with how much I had, I was nowhere near close to the amount someone could have earned from leves.

    Quote Originally Posted by lordjoosie View Post
    If we're guessing though, I'll guess it's a lot more likely that after SE discovered the leave exploit, while they were working on patching it, they did a little math and said something like since the max gil you can possibly obtain from the 180 leaves you have gotten in 30 days is let's say 200k , and your character gained 400k gil from leaves in that time, you are a cheater.

    This doesn't mean everyone that was suspended cheated, but we know some did in this exact way. Including one that has posted over 200 times in THIS forum about how unfair these suspensions are. If you're going to be mad at someone be mad at the cheaters. They make it hard for us to believe those who really were innocent.
    Would you like to explain then how I have more earned than your threshold listed for leves yet was not suspended? If they sweeped all the characters with a simple check on the amount earned, it would be impossible for me to be passed over if your theory is correct. But, again, look above and do some non ignorance based calculations.
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    Last edited by Subhuman; 10-16-2013 at 06:28 AM.

  2. #142
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subhuman View Post
    I was posting a similar reply about triple turn in leves but you beat me to it. I had even more earned around that time from leves, approx 450k. There is plenty of people like myself who did a majority of their leves doing HQ triple turn ins for crafting. Th only cherry picking done was picking the best triple leve by xp for every tier, not even by gil. If you do some real calculations with all the facts joosie you will see that the max amount you could have earned was way over that screenshot. Try this calculation - add in your original number, then triple it for only doing triples, then add another 200% gil reward for HQ. Even that is short of max, because you are lowballing the amount of gil.
    I was hoping you would use this argument.
    If you have that much in your log you're a cheater too. What you fail to recognize is it is EASY for a 45+ crafter to tell you're lying. Takes 1 leave and 5 min of time.
    News flash, bonus gil from leaves DOES NOT show up in your achievement log. Only the base amount does. If your log shows that high an amount you cheated. No doubts, no questions.

    Scarebearz, you got caught, get over it. I know it's embarrassing that you posted the proof yourself.
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    To show how clueless the above comments are, here is a lvl 45 GSM repeatable Leve:











    1 all HQ hand in = 2691gil
    3 all HQ hand in = 8073gil

    400k/8k = 50

    So you could get 400k from doing just 50 leve's.

    Bonus gil from crafting leve's does show in the log, please stop talking nonsense...
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    Last edited by scarebearz; 10-16-2013 at 06:29 AM.

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    yup read the post above yours and stop digging your hole. The leave you listed adds exactly 897 gil to your achievement log. The one you posted with almost 400,000 gil in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordjoosie View Post
    I was hoping you would use this argument.
    If you have that much in your log you're a cheater too. What you fail to recognize is it is EASY for a 45+ crafter to tell you're lying. Takes 1 leave and 5 min of time.
    News flash, bonus gil from leaves DOES NOT show up in your achievement log. Only the base amount does. If your log shows that high an amount you cheated. No doubts, no questions.

    Scarebearz, you got caught, get over it. I know it's embarrassing that you posted the proof yourself.
    Even if that is true, maybe you should recheck my post for edits I added in. Your numbers are off everywhere, and way off on the number you could have done.

    Plus, your original assertion was that anyone with that amount got suspended and was a cheater, yet I didn't. I have done everything legit, and I invite you to report me, because it won't amount to anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordjoosie View Post
    yup read the post above yours and stop digging your hole. The leave you listed adds exactly 897 gil to your achievement log. The one you posted with almost 400,000 gil in it.
    You go and do it and see for yourself, you can't even admit when your wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subhuman View Post
    Even if that is true, maybe you should recheck my post for edits I added in. Your numbers are off everywhere, and way off on the number you could have done.
    Sorry I replied before seeing edits. If I give you the 51 days and max gil per leave it still doesn't come to 400k gil. You can earn much more than that but your achievement log only shows the base amount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarebearz View Post
    You go and do it and see for yourself, you can't even admit when your wrong.
    Do you think I posted before checking? Do you think others won't check? I actually thought I screwed up big so I went and did the leaves logged my gil in the achievement log before and after. I got full gil but in the achievements only got base amount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subhuman View Post
    Even if that is true, maybe you should recheck my post for edits I added in. Your numbers are off everywhere, and way off on the number you could have done.

    Plus, your original assertion was that anyone with that amount got suspended and was a cheater, yet I didn't. I have done everything legit, and I invite you to report me, because it won't amount to anything.
    Sorry man I missed your edit again. If I said everyone with gil that high in achievement log got banned it was a mistype, I meant that anyone with gil that high at that time on achievement log is a cheater, some just got away with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lordjoosie View Post
    Sorry I replied before seeing edits. If I give you the 51 days and max gil per leave it still doesn't come to 400k gil. You can earn much more than that but your achievement log only shows the base amount.
    I don't really know how to reply to this..not only does it come close to 400k, it is well over. I didn't even do every leve available to me, I had probably 50 left over, and had that amount. I can't explain how it added up if it adds the base only because it wasn't something I was actively tracking, but just something I noticed one day and thought it was funny. I can't confirm or deny that right now, but I can tell you I have never cheated with that amount and again, wasn't suspended. Maybe its time to admit you could be wrong though since I have already proven your original numbers were way off that you were very certain of.

    But.. the original point was over scarebearz, who falls under the threshold you just admitted to.

    Quote Originally Posted by lordjoosie View Post
    Sorry man I missed your edit again. If I said everyone with gil that high in achievement log got banned it was a mistype, I meant that anyone with gil that high at that time on achievement log is a cheater, some just got away with it.
    You were wrong here already from your original numbers which was around 200k in that post you are talking about. This is my point. You labeled a bunch of people cheaters for a certain threshold of gil, and I proved even with a lowball amount that you were wrong. Also going off of what scarebearz posted below, you are very wrong again. Even my amount wouldn't come close to the max amount, which would make sense seeing as how it wasn't even something I was trying to do. You don't have any credibility at this point.
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    Last edited by Subhuman; 10-16-2013 at 06:53 AM.

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