Here's how people made millions in 1 month, my story.

[KevinC]

If SE intended to wipe RMT gil out of servers by ripping it out of legitimate players' hands, then they should've gone through the steps to determine exactly which transactions were RMT-tainted and ONLY take that gil... not that ridiculous divide-your-money-by-100 thing they ended up doing. The marketplace holds records of the RMT transactions and the gil amounts therein. That's the part that really comes off as unfair to the player. I've seen comparisons to real-life counterfeit situations... yes in real-life you would not keep counterfeit money you mistakenly received, but the police wouldn't divide your bank account by 100 to decide what of your own money you get to keep afterwards...

Yep and then offer absolutly 0 support to their customers that try to get it fixed.

[KevinC]

As one of the early 50 crafter's on cactuar, specifically Armorer.

I can honestly say I probably bought a considerable amount of your ores off the market. Could turn them into nuggets and insta-sell for 30k+.
I can also say there were others I personally know that did this.... and that no way in hell was my gil tainted as it was also from the same market boards, quests, etc.

I was never banned nor my gil taken away, simply because I was under some X amount of gil when they did the wipe.

The amount of ignorant/blind fanboy people in all of these threads supporting SE blows my mind.

-Wings Rave

Yup and they come in with absolutly no argument and just act like a wild priest trying to find a witch

[lordjoosie]

I was never banned nor my gil taken away, simply because I was under some X amount of gil when they did the wipe.

The amount of ignorant/blind fanboy people in all of these threads supporting SE blows my mind.

-Wings Rave

Unless you have some brand new inside information, there is absolutely no reason to believe those who were suspended were chosen based on the amount of gil they had. It's already been shown that many more people with multi millions did not get banned than those that did.

If you're just guessing as to how they chose, than I apologize. It would make sense since those chosen were mostly high level crafters with large amounts of gil.

If we're guessing though, I'll guess it's a lot more likely that after SE discovered the leave exploit, while they were working on patching it, they did a little math and said something like since the max gil you can possibly obtain from the 180 leaves you have gotten in 30 days is let's say 200k , and your character gained 400k gil from leaves in that time, you are a cheater.

This doesn't mean everyone that was suspended cheated, but we know some did in this exact way. Including one that has posted over 200 times in THIS forum about how unfair these suspensions are. If you're going to be mad at someone be mad at the cheaters. They make it hard for us to believe those who really were innocent.

[whycantiusebetaforumname]

Sure you had to pay a price, but bots and RMT are now 100% gone from the game. And only the rich had to pay the price, so really, what price was paid at all? Sounds like a perfect solution to me.

Is this sarcasm

[KevinC]

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I used about 30 leves max since launch lol. Everyone that got suspended on the 27th all stated they had 8+ millions and on non-legacy server. I never saw any post, here or on another non official forum about someone getting suspended on september 27th with less than 8 millions and no screenshots of someone who had more than 8 millions that didn't get suspended either.

[lordjoosie]

I used about 30 leves max since launch lol. Everyone that got suspended on the 27th all stated they had 8+ millions and on non-legacy server. I never saw any post, here or on another non official forum about someone getting suspended on september 27th with less than 8 millions and no screenshots of someone who had more than 8 millions that didn't get suspended either.

I hope you didn't read into my post that I was accusing you. Out of all the posters you're one of the few I lean towards believing. Even if I didn't I would have no right to accuse you without proof. If you want to know who I'm talking about my last couple posts makes it clear. The point I was trying to make is, those people make it harder for us to believe you guys, since they have made every type of post you have and more.

Without proof you have no reason to believe me but on the day after the suspensions, (well it was the day the first thread about it was made here) I personally saw the screen of a family member and a friend with over 8 mil.

I don't know how they chose any more than anyone else, maybe some got flagged for leave hacking some for other reasons, we'll never know.

[lordjoosie]

I used about 30 leves max since launch lol. Everyone that got suspended on the 27th all stated they had 8+ millions and on non-legacy server. I never saw any post, here or on another non official forum about someone getting suspended on september 27th with less than 8 millions and no screenshots of someone who had more than 8 millions that didn't get suspended either.

This is just nitpicking I know, but there are people in every one of the multiple threads on this issue that have posted they had under 8 mil ( actually under 1 mil) and were part of this suspension.

[KevinC]

This is just nitpicking I know, but there are people in every one of the multiple threads on this issue that have posted they had under 8 mil ( actually under 1 mil) and were part of this suspension.

I think the most frustrating part is when phone support tells you to contact them in-game and then the GMs tells you to call them even when you write down in the ticket that the phone support told me to contact them...

[lordjoosie]

I think the most frustrating part is when phone support tells you to contact them in-game and then the GMs tells you to call them even when you write down in the ticket that the phone support told me to contact them...

Yea man there is no 2 ways about it, this was handled horribly. Either they aren't sure the people cheated, in which case they should never have been punished, or they are sure in which case they let people who cheated back in the game with all their levels and millions in gear and retainer gil. Neither case is remotely close to acceptable.

[scarebearz]

And you can't forget all of the gil you get from leaves. If these guys saved all of their 180ish leaves for 45-50, that's a pretty good chunk of change. The high level leaves give up to 500 gil a pop. You can sometimes also get triple from multi turn in leaves. So that's 90k gil without any triples, they could have conceivably even doubled that if they got lucky on leave selection and cherry picked.

Of course if you had more than twice as much gil from leaves than was possible, like this person:


people might think you used the exploit they just patched that allows you to massively duplicate leave turnins and cheat yourself a pile of gil and a pile of level 50s.

You have to wonder how some peoples brains actually function.

Have you ever done a high level triple HQ hand in crafting leve?

It's around 4-5k gil for 1 leve.

Clueless people trash talking genuine players due to sheer ignorance is part of why this community is failing.

If we're guessing though, I'll guess it's a lot more likely that after SE discovered the leave exploit, while they were working on patching it, they did a little math and said something like since the max gil you can possibly obtain from the 180 leaves you have gotten in 30 days is let's say 200k , and your character gained 400k gil from leaves in that time, you are a cheater.

This doesn't mean everyone that was suspended cheated, but we know some did in this exact way. Including one that has posted over 200 times in THIS forum about how unfair these suspensions are. If you're going to be mad at someone be mad at the cheaters. They make it hard for us to believe those who really were innocent.

Yet another arrogant and clueless comment.

If your sure I'm exploiting THEN GET A GM TO INVESTIGATE MY ACCOUNT, LIKE I'VE BEEN ASKING ALL ALONG!