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    This is proof that sch was completely underpowered

    All the greedy whm saying that sch is completely balanced and fine l2p. Have been proven wrong by SE themselves

    Do you think a class that is completely balanced to whm would receive basically around 20%- 30% throughput boost to single target healing?

    Before update Sch had spell speed as wasted stat(which is on their relic and af2) since they had to have a gcd around 3-3.5 seconds because they had to wait for the faerie(who has a 3 sec gcd and doesnt benefit from spell speed) to become available to command it to embrace.

    Now sch can spam physick/adlo to their hearts content every 2.4 seconds while mashing embrace. There is pretty much no more wasted time during sch healing anymore.
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    Last edited by sharazisspecial; 10-16-2013 at 04:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharazisspecial View Post
    All the greedy whm saying that sch is completely balanced and fine l2p. Have been proven wrong by SE themselves

    Do you think a class that is completely balanced to whm would receive basically around 20%- 30% throughput boost to single target healing?

    Before update Sch had spell speed as wasted stat because they had to have a gcd around 3-3.5 seconds because they had to wait for the faerie to become available to command it to embrace. Now sch can spam physick/adlo to their hearts content while spamming embrace (while being much less likely to have periods of wasted seconds)
    Sch = now OP - needs nerf......
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    Kael Elenion
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    No one denied the fairies needed fixing. Everyone agreed with that. And the fix was to a pet mechanic just as everyone asked for. Would still like macro options though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teraluna View Post
    Sch = now OP - needs nerf......
    SCH is now king tank healer
    WHM is now king raid healer

    That is fairly balanced now

    If you want sch to be nerfed , time to nerf medica 2 and mediica . Whm can aoe heal more double a sch can in 2 gcd.

    No one denied the fairies needed fixing. Everyone agreed with that. And the fix was to a pet mechanic just as everyone asked for. Would still like macro options though.
    Fix= buff . I would like macros too.
    Also I want obey to be a permanent stance, where faerie only casts embrace.
    Then i want to change steady to a permanent stance that disables faerie from casting anything at all by itself and then stop steady auto switching to defend after manual casts.
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    Last edited by sharazisspecial; 10-16-2013 at 02:25 AM.

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    Before with pet auto cast, scholar is fine. Manually casting embrace can result in massive over-heal sometimes. Coil is the only instance when I find manually casting embrace is helpful because there is not a lot of movement involved and it is basically a heal spam fest to keep tank top off. Other than that, pet auto-cast in steady usually does the job.
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    Cost Pearce
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    I think this is fine - Scholar is the best single target healer, and WHM is the best AE healer. Those are both necessary roles that need to be filled, and you'd want both or even two WHMs depending on the amount of AE damage in the fight.

    If they just made Steady a consistent stance that lasted through direction of your faery to manually use abilities, that would solve all my issues and we wouldn't even need macros.
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    Err, no you wouldnt Nocks. WHM/WHM is a hell on earth for tanks and they are also so reactive its almost scary to a point. its like playing how many times can you have under 500 hp and jump back up 60-70% lmfao
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    Shinonome Sanada
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    I'm loving the pet fixes as a Summoner too. Imagine how far a few pet fixes went. Now we just need proper stances/autocast options for the second through fourth pet skills.
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    I think many whms agreed on pet fixes... including more fixes and macro-able pet commands. These changes will secure the SCH as the best tank healer.. so we can all move on and let SCHs be the tank healers they were meant to be and whms be the grorup healers.

    Remember when I said "Let's get these pet fixes- THEN see if there were more changes needed". This is why. As they roll out pet fixes, the class gets stronger... so those cries for buffs to AE healing become more and more unrealistic.

    ..and it's not that the class is underpowered... it's broken mechanics. It's why SCHs need to stop calling for buffs and start demanding fixes. Until these broken mechanics are fixed, it is impossible to really judge the class' power.
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    ..and it's not that the class is underpowered... it's broken mechanics. It's why SCHs need to stop calling for buffs and start demanding fixes. Until these broken mechanics are fixed, it is impossible to really judge the class' power.
    Fixes are buffs when it comes to MMO patching.

    Let say sch could heal as much as whm before the hot fix. Do you really think SE would let them heal around 30% more with a fix? Which they have done now.
    So if a class is inferior why is it wrong to ask for buffs? Whether it be in the form "fixes" or not.
    You could twist words and say that making sch shields stack/pop heals would be a "fix".

    Stopping sch's pet from wasting it regen cd will also buff them. But it is something they need since ai is not very good to rely on when it comes to raid healing or very hard modes.
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    Last edited by sharazisspecial; 10-16-2013 at 04:41 AM.

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