Read it again. :P Believe he's being facetious. Hence the 'hardcores know it's a bug that people can enter without having previously killed it'.What's funny about asking for a previous kill is that the fight is very different from different perspectives: What if I killed titan as a Close range DPS and now seek the kill as a healer, and it is my first time with this role in the fight? Am I gonna be more experienced than an healer on his 30th try?
really stupid attitude.



The fight is very much the same for all roles, except for tank. It's all the same avoidance rotation with class specific skill rotation.What's funny about asking for a previous kill is that the fight is very different from different perspectives: What if I killed titan as a Close range DPS and now seek the kill as a healer, and it is my first time with this role in the fight? Am I gonna be more experienced than an healer on his 30th try?
really stupid attitude.

I don't know, healer actually has to anticipate tumult (by not anticipating at all and memorizing his pattern) and heal a bit ahead of time. That's probably the hardest thing in the whole fight. DPS can just fire away and walk around while standing in tumult like a bunch of knobs. There's a reason post heart that 4 people can take him down, it's cause everyone else but the healer and tank are worthless.
Last edited by Monty; 10-15-2013 at 04:11 PM.



I was DFing this the other night mainly for fun and to see what kind of players I would meet.
1. About half the parties I was in, a healer was the first to die (early on). Re-attempt with the same people and it still happens repeatedly.
2. Over-healing. Tanks loses hate to a healer. Variable reasons/scenarios as to why this can happen.
3. Under-geared DPS. Secondly, ones who can't dodge decently.
4. Just a line I actually got tired of seeing. "When we get to the heart...(insert comment here)". None of the DF parties I was in reached the heart except one. lol
All in all, I enjoyed myself. I didn't rage at anyone. CM and AK grinds really took a toll on me, so I had wanted to do something else. @.@
I only tried the fight as Monk, but am sure you are wrong on this one, sorry. Whenever I know there is Tumult I relax, pull out combos and don't care of anything else. If I was to play that as a WHM, tumults would make me go: "Damn I must quickly heal everyone before Tumult and same after tumult before I get plumes underneath my feet".... I wouldn't be relaxed at all. Same goes with Titan jumps. On the other hand, as a healer or a ranged dps, I think, I would be more relaxed during Plumes since I would have a better view of the battlefield and know better where to move.
As a healer, plumes can be irritating >.> but best of Titan hm? I had a run too where the duty didn't even start and Titan was already smacking people in the circle, guess he was fed up too. At another attempt I was standing next to a landslide healing someone and wanted to run back right after it but ended up running in the other direction, right off the cliff...fail![]()

1. Dragoon dies first, every time, on every separate attempt, even with different groups
2. Wipe before heart phase because dodging is hard
3. Wipe during heart phase because what is dps
4. Wipe during final phase because healers died trying to raise the dragoon
5. Let's not forget the c@ tank who didn't turn shield oath on and lost aggro to the healers, causing a wipe, then left
6. "why did i get hit i moved before the animation ended"
7. "what cast bar"
8. "ok guys we build limit this time and we'll win"
9. cliff diving before a wipe
10. full DL tank still can't hold aggro
The list never ends.

The only funny things I've seen so far were both in Ifrit HM. Our Warrior tank with level 1 accessories across the board (and horrible armor to top it off), surprisingly enough we all stuck around and tried it anyways! The other one was a Dragoon. Queue up the DF, get in there, 2 wars. Ok, perfect, the drg and war can alternate stun. Dragoon leaves the duty finder...all I could think of was him saying "f#$ this, I didn't sign up on drg to think about what I have to do!"
Been waiting in que for Titan over 10 minutes. The fight finally starts and then I see the tank. A maradeur, not even warrior. Dressed in lvl1 garlear stuff, pulling Titan instantly.
Apparently, people are so bored, they join DF groups just to piss people off.
And about the DRG hate.. I've been in countless Titan pugs and Dragoons always were the ones to survive to the end. I've never seen a DRG there that has been a problem. But there was always a healer, BLM, bard, or especially monk that went down in the first few phases. So please, stop the dragoon hate.
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