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    When you mindlessly defend a game you hurt it. Some wisdom from a great.

    "Everyone who dislikes your work is right.

    This is the hardest pill to swallow. I’ve never gotten a piece of feedback that was wrong. You see, you can’t deny a player their unique experience. Whatever they felt, was true. For them. And something in your work triggered it.

    It is useless, and worse, actually self-defeating, to attempt to deny the critique. Sure, there are sometimes reviews that seem spiteful, unfair, and the rest. But the vast majority of the time, people are giving their honest reaction.

    And the bottom line is, you put the game out there in order to get reactions."

    - From Ralph Koster's Blog.

    White Knights, you are hurting the game, so from now on I will refer to you as Dark Knights since you are doing damage to the game when you try to defend it.
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    A reader lives a thousand lives, the man who never reads lives only one. - George R.R. Martin

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    Sure. But the problem stems from various expectations. Lots of vocal "hardcores" feel the game should be playable 80+ a week but that game does not exist nor will it ever again.
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    I find what also hurts is when people are enjoying their experience with a game, but have to deal with constantly being told they are not really enjoying the game correctly...lol
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    Theres a difference between legitimate feedback and "THIS GAME IS STUPID!" type feedback, even if we are to believe your quote (from someone I don't know and don't care for) and that both types of criticism are legitimate.
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    Annoying when a lot of people are basically "The sky is green!." "No it's blue." "It's green you White Knight!." It's a difference of opinion that has sweet fa to do with Square yet some how i get labeled by that phrase 90% of the forum uses wrong in the first place.
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    Last edited by Ispen; 10-15-2013 at 07:36 AM.

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    How can there be 11 likes of this post:
    Quote Originally Posted by DokutoruGwydion View Post
    Theres a difference between legitimate feedback and "THIS GAME IS STUPID!" type feedback, even if we are to believe your quote (from someone I don't know and don't care for) and that both types of criticism are legitimate.
    Seriously?! It's OK not to know everyone that matters, but stating that you "don't care for" that person without even knowing who the hell he/she is... it speaks volumes of closed-mindedness. No wonder such a rigid approach is mind-numbingly oblivious to the deeper meaning of the quote then; basically replying to the idea that "any criticism holds some inherent legitimacy in the name of subjectivity" by saying "no, because some is not legitimate". -_-' Sometimes, discussing on this forum feels like talking to a wall waiting for an inspiring counter-argument → not going to happen. Unfortunately.

    For your information, Raphael "Raph" Koster (born September 7, 1971) is an American entrepreneur, game designer, and author of A Theory of Fun for Game Design. Koster is widely recognized for his work as the lead designer of Ultima Online and the creative director behind Star Wars Galaxies. (Source: Wikipedia)
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    “Focus on the journey, not the destination.
    Joy is found not in finishing an activity but in doing it.”

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    His name is Raph. It's in the URL, even.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MysteriousRonin View Post
    White Knights, you are hurting the game, so from now on I will refer to you as Dark Knights since you are doing damage to the game when you try to defend it.
    So...out of curiosity...does that make you a "White Knight"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haoma View Post
    So...out of curiosity...does that make you a "White Knight"?
    Only if he has an ARK, which since there is only several of them i doubt he has one let alone anyone here has one.
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    Only problem is half of the criticism has no worth as all it ends up being is a statement of how much they hate a feature and nowhere do they put how they think it could be done better. So just because a statement is critical does not always make it useful to developers.
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