The account suspensions and gil reset leave a black mark on this game.

[scarebearz]

The article specifically states that CCP spent weeks observing RMT behavior to fine tune their "Unholy Rage" program.

Eh?

The blanket bans were on the 27th of Sep, they did have weeks.

[Kherza]

Eh?

The blanket bans were on the 27th of Sep, they did have weeks.

The cheaters and RMT didn't start immediately, they also didn't become a huge problem until about halfway through Sept. I don't remember seeing a single spammer in Early Acces or Beta. There were some shortly after release but it didn't get bad until shortly before the bans because the game was too young that even cheaters can't get that much gil in a week or two. Sept. 27 is about 1 month after the game launched and everyone knows the first week to week and a half was rough because of server stability. I stand by what I said, they didn't have weeks and if they had taken the time to do what CCP did, we'd have some other thread with tons of complaining about how they don't care about RMT.

[scarebearz]

Don't know about your server but on Odin we have been getting RMT spam since release and reporting it since then too.

[ogopogo]

The cheaters and RMT didn't start immediately, they also didn't become a huge problem until about halfway through Sept. I don't remember seeing a single spammer in Early Acces or Beta. There were some shortly after release but it didn't get bad until shortly before the bans because the game was too young that even cheaters can't get that much gil in a week or two. Sept. 27 is about 1 month after the game launched and everyone knows the first week to week and a half was rough because of server stability. I stand by what I said, they didn't have weeks and if they had taken the time to do what CCP did, we'd have some other thread with tons of complaining about how they don't care about RMT.

Not to mention them being hush hush about it doesn't mean it wasn't going on out of sight. If certain accounts are to be believed, the major Gil generation exploit had been going on since phase 4 until only recently.

[JoRob]

The markets are free and open by design. If the markets cannot work due to the possibility of illegitimate sources of gil, as you're suggesting, what would you propose as an alternative?.

I'm not offering one. What I'm asking about is what you (or any seller) expected the customer base could afford to pay in the early weeks of the economy. And by extension, how you or any First reached that conclusion.
I really want to know. Because, in the threads I've read about the Gil Removal, none of the sellers admits they believed (or had a sneaking suspicion) that RMT gil would buttress their pricing, prices that contributed to customers purchasing gil.

While I admire your willingness to speak out on behalf of a segment of the injured population, the open-market defense just doesn't hold up in that light, and I'm calling bullfeathers. If outside sources of gil did not exist, the early multi-million price tag would have had a much less chance of succeeding.

[Wilbert]

[QUOTE=Susanoh;1400905]No, I wasn't affected, but this is still important enough to talk about because if players don't stand up for the minority, then SE will be able to continually get away with hostile actions against its own player base. If SE targets 1% of the community and 99% says "Oh well, I wasn't affected, I don't care" then they could target a different 1% the next month and the same thing will happen.QUOTE]

You should go outside and use this kind of energy in the real world where this kind of energy will make a real difference then in a game where the devs are more interested on the majority then a select few who rely on their greed to accomplish their goals and not the communities.

[TallSummit]

You make 350k leveling in a best case scenario to 50 as a combat class. The crafters were selling items at 1M profit on my server, often 4 pieces at a time.

You are full of shit if you cry innocent about not knowing who you were selling your items to.

If you were perma-banned I would say that's unjust. If your gil was reduced by 99% that sucks but get over it or quit. SE has shown at this point that they aren't going to do anything no matter how much you cry.

[scarebearz]

I don't get all the "leveling to 50 only gets you to 350k" nonsense, people got to 50 in like 3/4 days.

I know lvl 50's who claim to make upto 100k an hour farming fleece.

There are also those selling titian runs, those selling expensive materia etc etc etc.

Just because you cannot make gil (because your not really trying) it's not our fault.

Endgame items are for endgame players not fresh lvl 50's who want an easy ride.

[Wyverna]

The problem is that SQ-E is allowing the Gold Sellers to make their money (REAL MONEY) while they go after the gil buyers in the game. No doubt these gil buyers were and are cheating. But it's the gold SELLERS that are ruining the game experience by Spamming shout and Tell to the point where People are turning them off. SQ-E should be eliminating the spammers as soon as they are caught or reported. This will also catch the power levelers since their characters are being used to spam the gold selling websites. ALL of those accounts should be banned permanently. Catch the gil buyers when you can but please get rid of all the gold spammers who are ruining this game.

[Overon]

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Spoiler Alert

RMT is a Business
Has many Employees
Electric Bills
Sub Payments
Internet Bills(Depending Country)
Program Cost

They only exist because people buy their service ! Ban the weak and the RMT will fade away or atleast a Bulk of it.

I think RMT are scum but I think even worse of the people who buy their services !

Might be innocents who got their Gil stripped because of some Weak Lazy Player who did not want to get their gil legit and paid for Items or Merc Services with Illegal Gil .

Gil Buyers caused SE to do this , RMT did not force anyone to buy their gil , heck they annoy me worse than a Fly that no matter how hard you try , it is impossible to kill.....