Please do not lock Jobs to the Weapon Class that unlocks them.

[Nuru]

"I want to be a Tank, but I do not want to use a Sword and Shield."
- You Want to be a Paladin that can use any weapon and not just a sword and shield.

"I want to Tank while being an Archer"
- Although it seems abstract, You can have your bow equipped along with your Archer abilities. The Paladin Skills will help you play your role as a Tank.

"Kay thanks."

I believe this would sum up what is going on. Yes, the Archer Tank seems so ridiculous, but it is how free the Job/Class System would be if Cairdeas's suggestion is implemented.

[Sephr]

"I want to be a Tank, but I do not want to use a Sword and Shield."
- You Want to be a Paladin that can use any weapon and not just a sword and shield.

"I want to Tank while being an Archer"
- Although it seems abstract, You can have your bow equipped along with your Archer abilities. The Paladin Skills will help you play your role as a Tank.

"Kay thanks."

I believe this would sum up what is going on. Yes, the Archer Tank seems so ridiculous, but it is how free the Job/Class System would be if Cairdeas's suggestion is implemented.

How would that work with gear/stats though? Would archers be donning full mail sets and just taking hits? Seems like it kills the archetypes classic to FF that people were asking for. (I believe Yoshi even said something like "Jobs - That classic FF system - is returning" or sooomething)

[Nuru]

How would that work with gear/stats though? Would archers be donning full mail sets and just taking hits? Seems like it kills the archetypes classic to FF that people were asking for. (I believe Yoshi even said something like "Jobs - That classic FF system - is returning" or sooomething)

I was stating how Cairdeas would like this system to be, and using that Class/Job Combo as an example of how absurd something like that may be, but provides the freedom to be able to play the game any way you wish. Of course, it may not be fit for partying, people may up and laugh at you for being the Paladin with a Bow. Though, if people want to play that way, they should be able to.

As for my stance, I really don't mind, just as long as everything is balanced. I'd enjoy the freedom, and I'd also enjoy finding out what Job/Class Combos work great for different situations. As for gear and stats, well, i think the stat allotment is up to you, but the gear would have to be either the gear that supports your archer or gear that supports your job/role. Its really your choice.

[Sorel]

Yes, the Archer Tank seems so ridiculous, but it is how free the Job/Class System would be if Cairdeas's suggestion is implemented.

Maybe so. But there has been as ridiculous if not more ridiculous in previous Final Fantasy games.

A dagger-wielding White Mage (Penelo, FFXII).
A black mage that wields stuffed dolls (Lulu, FFX).
A fork-wielding Blue Mage (Quina, FFIX).
A nunchaku-wielding White Mage (Selphie, FFVIII).
A gun-wielding Black Mage (Vincent, FFVII).
A sword-wielding White Mage (Terra, FFVI).

[Nuru]

Maybe so. But there has been as ridiculous if not more ridiculous in previous Final Fantasy games.

A dagger-wielding White Mage (Penelo, FFXII).
A black mage that wields stuffed dolls (Lulu, FFX).
A fork-wielding Blue Mage (Quina, FFIX).
A nunchaku-wielding White Mage (Selphie, FFVIII).
A gun-wielding Black Mage (Vincent, FFVII).
A sword-wielding White Mage (Terra, FFVI).

Precisely, but people here are wondering more about the stats, and how these abstract Job/Class Combinations would be able to play their part in parties.

Also. This is how I could see an Archer Tanking.


1. Archer Equips Paladin Job role. with the Job Role Active he has access to Job Specific Armor that enhances his defense and further defines him as being a Paladin.

2. Archer Uses hate control and movement restricting abilities to prevent the monster from moving away from him or targeting another party member.

3. In a Pinch the Archer can cast Cures from Paladin to heal himself or party members also increasing his enmity and maintaining his hate.

Perfect, the roles still work with whatever class you are. Just as how Class Rank was more important than your Physical Level, now your Job Role is more important than your Class.

You should be allowed to play whatever role with whatever weapon. Some combinations would work better than others, and some wont. That's just the way this system works.

[Xeno]

-NEW-
Stage by stage implementation of job-specific weapons and armor

Don't think we need to be worried

[Cairdeas]

Precisely, but people here are wondering more about the stats, and how these abstract Job/Class Combinations would be able to play their part in parties.

Job Specific Equipment used to help define the Job not the Weapon.

Paladin armor will increase Defense, HP, MP, and Healing.

Warrior specific armor will increase STR, Dex, Attack Power, and Accuracy.

etc.

[Sephr]

Job Specific Equipment used to help define the Job not the Weapon.

Paladin armor will increase Defense, HP, MP, and Healing.

Warrior specific armor will increase STR, Dex, Attack Power, and Accuracy.

etc.

But that doesn't really answer the question, because with the versatility you're implying, in order for that system to work jobs like Archer would suddenly switch to wearing a lovely giant set of white paladin armour?

It pretty much kills the 'classic Final Fantasy' feel theyre aiming for

[Cairdeas]

But that doesn't really answer the question, because with the versatility you're implying, in order for that system to work jobs like Archer would suddenly switch to wearing a lovely giant set of white paladin armour?

It pretty much kills the 'classic Final Fantasy' feel theyre aiming for

How so? Its not Archer thats equipping that gear its a Paladin. The Paladin just happens to be an Archer.

[Nuru]

But that doesn't really answer the question, because with the versatility you're implying, in order for that system to work jobs like Archer would suddenly switch to wearing a lovely giant set of white paladin armour?

It pretty much kills the 'classic Final Fantasy' feel theyre aiming for

Not really, its the fact that a Paladin with a Sword and Shield is the best combination and would probably perform the role better than an Archer/Paladin, so in other words, people are going to be strict about which Job/Class you bring to the party, otherwise, you can try soloing as a Archer/Paladin because that's simply what you like.

How so? Its not Archer thats equipping that gear its a Paladin. The Paladin just happens to be an Archer.

To not confuse people, the Paladin just happens to use a Bow.