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    Sorry but when Yoshida himself said he wants leveling to not be a huge aspect at all or take a long time because he wants the real game to start at "end game" that is not our fault. He made it possible for us to "rush" to 50 and promised us so much hardcore end game content we'd be busy for a loooong time.

    I said this in another thread I guess I'll post it here too lol..the game is still new, give it some time, but I am guessing a in a year or so it will have plenty of stuff to do end game and will be fine. FFXI went through the same thing, here you can view the history of FFXI if your bored: http://z4.invisionfree.com/HCII/ar/t2095.htm

    Lol a lot of the issues seem very similar. If you look through the updates...it took it about a year or year and a half before it got good. xD I think this game is off to the right start...its just missing a looooot. They'll add it in patch by patch slowly.

    One thing they absolutely need to step up on is their customer service. If they don't fix that they will never be able to compete with companies like Blizzard, no matter how amazing the game may be. =P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babydoll View Post
    Sorry but when Yoshida himself said he wants leveling to not be a huge aspect at all or take a long time because he wants the real game to start at "end game" that is not our fault. He made it possible for us to "rush" to 50 and promised us so much hardcore end game content we'd be busy for a loooong time.

    I said this in another thread I guess I'll post it here too lol..the game is still new, give it some time, but I am guessing a in a year or so it will have plenty of stuff to do end game and will be fine. FFXI went through the same thing, here you can view the history of FFXI if your bored: http://z4.invisionfree.com/HCII/ar/t2095.htm

    Lol a lot of the issues seem very similar. If you look through the updates...it took it about a year or year and a half before it got good. xD I think this game is off to the right start...its just missing a looooot. They'll add it in patch by patch slowly.

    One thing they absolutely need to step up on is their customer service. If they don't fix that they will never be able to compete with companies like Blizzard, no matter how amazing the game may be. =P
    This game is not new. It is not close to being new. It is a 3 year old game with a lot of the quests from 1.0. (The 2.0 version shows it is not new. New begins at 1.0). It is a re-launch one that needed to deliver to make up for the first launch. That eats away at the excuse of give it X months to be fun. In a re-launch you need it to be fun from the start.
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    This game is not new. It is not close to being new. It is a 3 year old game with a lot of the quests from 1.0. (The 2.0 version shows it is not new. New begins at 1.0). It is a re-launch one that needed to deliver to make up for the first launch. That eats away at the excuse of give it X months to be fun. In a re-launch you need it to be fun from the start.
    you sound bitter, Umadbro.

    Game is much better than ver 1, much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbowie View Post
    you sound bitter, Umadbro.

    Game is much better than ver 1, much better.
    You have an opinion that the game is much better than version 1.0? (I liked 1.23 a great deal). It does not change the fact this game is not a 'new' game. Pointing out the fact that it is not a new game does not make me sound bitter or mad. You implying such is a stawman attack to distract from the fact that it is not new. Umadbro? Your strawman attack makes you sound bitter.

    Quote Originally Posted by Babydoll View Post
    Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn came out on August 27th, 2013. It is new. FF14 is not new, but ARR is.

    So I guess when Halo 2 comes out..its not new. Since Halo 1 came out a few years ago..when they released Halo 2...its old. Gotcha >.> Cuz remember...the first version counts as new and everything else is not new!
    So this game is called A realm Reborn?

    No the game is called Final Fantasy XIV A Realm Reborn. It even comes out with that version 2.0 behind it. Lets use your Halo example. When Halo 2 came out its code version was 1.0. Because it was a new game. For this one (Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn) the patch is 2.1 not 1.1 because the next patch from 1.23 was... 2.0. It jumped to 2 because there was a huge upgrade (a new engine even) but square enix considered it part of the old game. A re-launching? Yoshida even says the reason why they continued on with 14 and not making a new one. I understand you want to have an excuse of why this MMO is all brand new and point to the reason being its all new, but Square-Enix does not consider it 'new' and it is about time we do not as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidbowie View Post
    you sound bitter, Umadbro.

    Game is much better than ver 1, much better.
    While it hurts to respond to someone who uses the phrase umadbro non-satirically as I can feel my IQ lowering with each passing letter...

    Its better in some aspects but I think some of it also feels watered down or flat out Ruined. I personally hate the Copy>Paste Linear gear progression every MMO does now, and I've got no taste for a large open world to explore with jack sh*t all reason to explore it... At least in 1.0 they had NMs, even if they were on small cooldowns.

    Games better I think, but, Its still lost a lot in the rebuild... I know I'm not alone but I doubt I'm in the majority, I just really hate how every MMO released seems to be a Copy>paste in every field because they gotta make it accessible for the lowest common denominator. Not all of you fall into this category and liking this game doesn't mean you fall into it either, its just annoying that everytime i get excited about an MMO It burns out in a month because it feels like I'm just playing the last MMO with a new name.

    I guess why i stuck by FFXI so long was because it was so different in a lot of ways. I mean it borrowed some ideas but I liked that armor wasn't linear. Even if "Max builds" were there, thats always going to exist in a game, at least I had acceptable options even if it wasn't best tier. In this game its very cut and dry, You either have Above (I.lv X) or you suck. In FFXI just using THF alone as an example there were several gearsets within a few DPS of eachother I could work on, some easier than others... But If i was missing a handful of armor it didn't immediately make me a liability in endgame like this game does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlaiseArath View Post
    Hipster stuff about how old games were better because cool people played old games.
    Nice to see FFXI players still think FFXI was perfect because it has a lower number in its name.

    Also @OP, serious question.

    When you came to the forums and saw 4 threads on the first page about how boring the game is, you didn't consider it stupid to post asking if anyone found the game boring?

    This is AGAIN concern trolling. OP just wants to make the game look like it is failing.
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    You honestly believe that I wish to make this game look like it is failing? Did I once say that this game is a failure because of it's end-game? Did I once say that I'm not ever going to play again because I hate the end-game? No. I was merely querying whether others felt the same way as i did in a non hostile way. I still enjoy the game, yet not as much as I used to
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksandr View Post
    This game is not new. It is not close to being new. It is a 3 year old game with a lot of the quests from 1.0. (The 2.0 version shows it is not new. New begins at 1.0). It is a re-launch one that needed to deliver to make up for the first launch. That eats away at the excuse of give it X months to be fun. In a re-launch you need it to be fun from the start.
    Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn came out on August 27th, 2013. It is new. FF14 is not new, but ARR is.

    So I guess when Halo 2 comes out..its not new. Since Halo 1 came out a few years ago..when they released Halo 2...its old. Gotcha >.> Cuz remember...the first version counts as new and everything else is not new!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleksandr View Post
    This game is not new. It is not close to being new. It is a 3 year old game with a lot of the quests from 1.0. (The 2.0 version shows it is not new. New begins at 1.0). It is a re-launch one that needed to deliver to make up for the first launch. That eats away at the excuse of give it X months to be fun. In a re-launch you need it to be fun from the start.
    What quest in ARR was already in 1.0?
    Every quest in ARR is new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    What quest in ARR was already in 1.0?
    Every quest in ARR is new.
    Pretty much every single job quest repeats the story...

    But looking at your jobs I am going to say you likely already knew this.
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