SUMMONER, WHAT WOULD YOU CHANGE OR ADD? (EVOLUTION & STAT ALLOCATION)

[Yukiko]

What about some sort of merging skill at level 55 or higher, so the own character becomes a ghost like spirit beeing while you gain control of a physical appearance of the egi himself with most of the original powers?
If you sacrify your own äther energy for doing such an action it would not harm the planet and its ätherflow...

Currently thats the idea to fix the problem, even when i really hate it because i do not like to mix 2+ old Final Fantasy Jobs into one...
I like the idea with evolving too, but thats a bit odd because its not really fitting into a final fantasy!

[Steeled]

You need to re-read my post. I point out that Carbuncle was only an avatar of light in 1 game, and it wasn't even a main numbered title. FFXII: Revanant Wings is the ONLY FF GAME WHERE CARBUNCLE IS RELATED TO THE LIGHT ELEMENT. She is normally a NON-ELEMENTAL summon. Once again, you are wrong. Also, in THIS GAME, Arcanist has nothing to do with dark magic.

I don't know if you've noticed, but this game barely cares about elements. Cast Meteor/Fire on Ifrit? Sure why not. Beat the crap out of Titan with Stone 2! Garuda Egi can hurt garuda, makes sense yo.

That's another area where summoner is strange. You don't really have a wind pet, fire pet, and earth pet, you have a ranged pet, tank pet, and melee pet.

[Phe]

I'd give the SMN some not-so-well-known summonings like those from FF12
instead of those sad little pityful Egi excuses.

[Duelle]

Its that the egis dont look as polished like the faires and carbuncles (hence why there arent many complaints about their designs). The egis really just need more detail and a more finished look.

If you mean the lighting effects on egi's, it seems to be similar to the effects for minions (they have the same amount of "gloss" as a baby imp or baby behemoth).

You do have to keep in mind that the egi's abstract-ish appearance is a good compromise when you've already established you can't have anything directly represented from the primals due to them tempering/brainwashing you. It's harder to judge an interpretation when it is different from the original in a notable way. You'd probably have more complaints if they had gone for egis looking like LQ primals rather than given the abstract shapes they currently have.

[Yamimarik]

If you mean the lighting effects on egi's, it seems to be similar to the effects for minions (they have the same amount of "gloss" as a baby imp or baby behemoth).

You do have to keep in mind that the egi's abstract-ish appearance is a good compromise when you've already established you can't have anything directly represented from the primals due to them tempering/brainwashing you. It's harder to judge an interpretation when it is different from the original in a notable way. You'd probably have more complaints if they had gone for egis looking like LQ primals rather than given the abstract shapes they currently have.

In times immemorial, there lived mages who had not only the power to summon the primals, but also the means to transmute the primals' essences, thus binding them to their will.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/game/#!/jobs/content

Sorry, but... all ways to try include "lore" as a way to go against better looking Egi's becomes invalid with that piece of "lore" right there straight from SE's own FFXIV:ARR site.

I'm personally not asking that we can summon full primals with their full primal powers, but really? We can't have full Primal looks? with a sized downgrade? I honestly don't get it, unless from what I remember reading from the Beta forums was true, and it's just Yoshida's personal preference since he doesn't like how "Final Fantasy XI" had their Avatars set up. Which imo is just a cop-out of not wanting to put forth the effort for aesthetically pleasing Egi's.

Again My personal opinion.

[Blackcanary]

I'm signing this and i agree with the guy that made this thread. SE really need to read this thread.

[Vies]

While I have no strong feelings about this one way or the other, what about at least having the egi turn into not-huge versions of their avatars when you cast spur/rouse/enkindle? It's not what most of you are asking for, but it could be a middle ground since the devs don't want to redesign the egi.

[Blackcanary]

Be call if there was a spell that allowed to summon and call out all of ur Egi at the same time for them to do a combo signature move. Or spell to let us summon 2 summons at the same time but the longer you keep them out will slowly drain all your mana. And make Fenrir just a bit bigger than Carbuncle or the same size i will be unhappy if he looks as crap as Titan Egi and the other egi.

[SirDiscoFrog]

If you mean the lighting effects on egi's, it seems to be similar to the effects for minions (they have the same amount of "gloss" as a baby imp or baby behemoth).

You do have to keep in mind that the egi's abstract-ish appearance is a good compromise when you've already established you can't have anything directly represented from the primals due to them tempering/brainwashing you. It's harder to judge an interpretation when it is different from the original in a notable way. You'd probably have more complaints if they had gone for egis looking like LQ primals rather than given the abstract shapes they currently have.

I don't mean the gloss I mean polish as in a finished look. You can have an abstracted version of the primals without them looking unfinished. To me Ifirit doesn't have this problem as much and while Titian also needs detail he still gets the point across for the most part but Garuda is way too simplified and doesn't feel finished. Carbuncle/Faries actually feel like finished creatures, not because of their glow but their overall design.

I do agree with you about them just making a LQ/Smaller version of the primals. I would not want that. I just feel more detail and a better overall design is needed for the egis to feel interesting and pop more. Out of all of them Ifirit has the more interesting look out of the 3 because of his shape and the slight details given to him like his exaggerated claws and horns and the pattern on him body.

[Engineer]

Thank you. Like I said in my post, they don't have to be these giant skyscrapers people are complaining about to look great.

So true...



I just wanted to add this for LOLZ