Monk/Pugilist: Useless Skills

[Dire]

Your exemple is wrong, Bards are the only ones who can use Ballad. If you're a Bard and there is another class in your party which can Ballad without nerfing his dps, you'll never use yours. This isn't optimal. Exactly like a monk nerfing his damage output to silence ADS when there is bards and paladins in his party.

But I wouldn't say it's a worthless skill.

Now you're just splitting hairs. As a Bard on interrupt duty I will almost certainly lose some DPS because I will have to hold off on the skills with longer animation if I want to be absolutely sure I get the interrupt in (and those skills happen to account for a good portion of my dps increase).

Point is, a dps on utility duty isn't going to perform at 100% dps-wise no matter the class, that's just the nature of the beast. If you don't want to lose dps then don't choose a class with utility. Then you can come here and complain that no one wants said class in groups./shrug

[Rapiso]

Now you're just splitting hairs. As a Bard on interrupt duty I will almost certainly lose some DPS because I will have to hold off on the skills with longer animation if I want to be absolutely sure I get the interrupt in (and those skills happen to account for a good portion of my dps increase).

Point is, a dps on utility duty isn't going to perform at 100% dps-wise no matter the class, that's just the nature of the beast. If you don't want to lose dps then don't choose a class with utility. Then you can come here and complain that no one wants said class in groups./shrug

Lol i'm not the one complaining here, i just came here for the entertainment.
I just wanted to point the fact that your exemple with Ballad was stupid.

[neoreturn]

we are arguing because you didn't understand my first post. i never jumped in and claimed anything. i just shared my experience in coil.

if you read my first post, last paragraph you could see that it is for turn 1's ADS. i said there the first silence is always on someone else than me. then on further posts, when we're talking about turn 2 because you've mistaken that i was talking about turn 2, i repeatedly posted thereafter that i have backup silence ?

Thx to make it clear, i agree T1 add and t2 nodes can let MNK try solo silence withou much problem but not ADS boss.the big issue is not DPS lose. The big issue is this boss do too many aoe and he always cast an aoe then a silence right after during the fight. Missing a HV normally causes a group wipe. MNK can be a backup silencer with pal. Still, I rather get a cd instance casting silence skill than this one. Compare with MNK another two skills, this one isn't useless but not wonderful either.