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    Player
    Tenkiei's Avatar
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    Tenkiei Miharu
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 50
    Coil turn 1/2? I'm sorry what did you expect WoW-esque LFR where 6 out of 25 people could be afk, another 6 dead, another 6 incompetent and still clear everything flawlessly in an hour?

    I have played WoW, I have played XIV, I have played ToR, I have played Rift, and in not ONE of those games has the endgame been "problematic" for the reasons you state, I suggest you find more skilled players to play with, or reexamine your own skill level as thusfar I've yet to hear anyone else describe Coil turns 1/2 as "difficult" or "Challenging".

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    AK? Ifrit HM? "Difficulty"? I'm sorry but what difficulty? Both of those fights are nearly impossible to fail, I'm fairly sure you can stand in >50% of the mechanics in both of those and not die...sorry maybe you should go back to doing LFR in WoW.
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    Xyos Soma
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    Typical reply "Get better".

    My skill is fine, my point is getting 8 competent people together to play decently is problematic. You actually have to schedule time to run things with people. I feel content should be attainable at anytime and should not be so difficult that you have to have all very good players to do it.

    If you think your right and the content is not that hard, please duty finder Titan and let me know who that works out.
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    Tyrial Highguard
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    Sargatanas
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggles View Post
    Typical reply "Get better".

    My skill is fine, my point is getting 8 competent people together to play decently is problematic. You actually have to schedule time to run things with people. I feel content should be attainable at anytime and should not be so difficult that you have to have all very good players to do it.

    If you think your right and the content is not that hard, please duty finder Titan and let me know who that works out.
    Thank god you never played XI then. Also, if you're finding this stuff "too hard" you obviously do need to work on your skills, since Turn 1 and 2 are easy mode. The majority of the issues that arise in Turn 1 is when the tanks suck and/or the people spawning/kiting the adds don't understand what to do. Everything else is business as usual. Don't stand in the bad and spam your rotation/heal.

    If you want content that can be done via duty finder I hear WoW is still up and running.
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    Aicasia Corazon
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    Ultros
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggles View Post
    Typical reply "Get better".

    My skill is fine, my point is getting 8 competent people together to play decently is problematic. You actually have to schedule time to run things with people. I feel content should be attainable at anytime and should not be so difficult that you have to have all very good players to do it.

    If you think your right and the content is not that hard, please duty finder Titan and let me know who that works out.
    If you think getting 8 people together is hard you would hate being a raid leader in any real raiding environment. Oh boy.
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    Zenny Zimba
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggles View Post
    Typical reply "Get better".

    My skill is fine, my point is getting 8 competent people together to play decently is problematic. You actually have to schedule time to run things with people.
    Sadly this is how the current End Game is designed. If you don't like it, there are plenty of other threads which voice this issue. Perhaps you should express your thoughts there instead of in a new thread?
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    Jo Maru
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    Hyperion
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggles View Post
    Typical reply "Get better".

    My skill is fine, my point is getting 8 competent people together to play decently is problematic. You actually have to schedule time to run things with people. I feel content should be attainable at anytime and should not be so difficult that you have to have all very good players to do it.

    If you think your right and the content is not that hard, please duty finder Titan and let me know who that works out.
    Thank the devs for allowing everyone to burn to endgame without developing skills/truly learning their jobs. Also, not impossible to DF titan, already done it for my 3rd relic.
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    Feylan Raha
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    Excalibur
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggles View Post
    Typical reply "Get better".

    My skill is fine, my point is getting 8 competent people together to play decently is problematic. You actually have to schedule time to run things with people. I feel content should be attainable at anytime and should not be so difficult that you have to have all very good players to do it.

    If you think your right and the content is not that hard, please duty finder Titan and let me know who that works out.
    There is no other answer for your complaint.

    This is an MMO. End-game raids require teamwork. Always have, always will. You will not get any end-game solo content.

    If you want to finish Coil, get a competent team. The end.
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    Rite Neow
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    Adamantoise
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    Leatherworker Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggles View Post
    Typical reply "Get better".

    My skill is fine, my point is getting 8 competent people together to play decently is problematic. You actually have to schedule time to run things with people. I feel content should be attainable at anytime and should not be so difficult that you have to have all very good players to do it.

    If you think your right and the content is not that hard, please duty finder Titan and let me know who that works out.
    Imagine what it was like in EQ1 way back in the day, when we would get 50 or 60 people together - no raid groups, no voice chat, nadda - to crack open fearplane or hateplane...

    ...and we still did it.
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    Ru Taq
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    White Mage Lv 45
    I understand your frustration but think about it....

    Why should every dungeon in the game be designed towards the average player. If you wait long enough there will be new crafting gear and 4 man Dungeons that will let you overgear for Coil and then you beat it later.

    What is wrong with having content that requires dedicated players to commit and work together to overcome the difficulty ?

    I know it sucks to feel left out but there are plenty of other things to do in the game, level an Alt do some crafting,etc...

    I have a hard time sympathizing with the solo crowd. MMOs were not designed to be solo games. Its like joining a bowling / dart league and complaining that you can't just win the tournament by yourself and that you have to depend on other players to work with you as a team.

    There are alot of games out there for solo play, go play them instead of crying that group based MMOs don't cater enough to the solo players.
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    Sasaku Saku
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    Leviathan
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Rutaq View Post
    I know it sucks to feel left out but there are plenty of other things to do in the game, level an Alt do some crafting,etc...
    Haha.../falls off chair laughing.

    No thank you, none of those things are fun. Well, if yall need me...I be helping newbs in WP/AK/Ifirit/Garuada until 2.1. That's if I don't go totally insane with boredom that is (which seems likely).
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