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    Yup. Game is extremely alt-unfriendly.

    It takes 156 CM runs to put my monk, bard, and scholar in full DL. 156.
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    Fully agree. i have no reason or even a chance to play any other job other than my brd because it's impossible to even gear up a second job when it takes multiple months just to gear up the first one, and if i were to play a different job, i'd be forcing someone else to switch or would have to look for a different group entirely that may need a different job in their group.

    the system needs reworked bad. not only that but you can do all of coil (as of right now up to turn 4) in a single day, then you're done for the entire week because of this lockout. it's ridiculous to time gate content when there isn't even much content to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crescent_Dusk View Post
    Yup. Game is extremely alt-unfriendly.

    It takes 156 CM runs to put my monk, bard, and scholar in full DL. 156.
    While you are somewhat correct, you should be running AK to also gear up with myth gear too. Helps cut back on what you are going to have to do to gear up.
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    I don't agree at all with removing coil lock, lets face it, people like to exploit in every way they possibly can, this will make an insane abuse and alot of people already explained why, loots abuse, selling runs, etc...

    Still, I dont belive raids like Coil are meant to be made by "getting help", even less selling runs, it's not about sacking everyone, it's about getting better to finish it by your own, why do you even play the game if your friends are going to do all the work while you "learn"?.

    Some of you speak like this game already have years online, there will be new content, new raids locked out (hope so), and you will have the chance to make and get loot of everyone of them. Alot of people complain about there's nothing else to do, but what do you expect from a game where almost everyone rushed to the end content in less than a month of release?.


    I have mixed feelings about the myth tomes, I don't think your solution is the best, but I belive something needs to be done, maybe different ways of getting gear with same value than AF2/Allagan later on,becuase if this is going to be all about an endless farm of myth, then I don't want to play this game anymore, why not better erase all the content, make you start at level 50 with only AK to be done.

    I belive SE haves plans for 2.1 and later on, yeah its a game online and we get updates, patches, etc...

    Quote Originally Posted by Crescent_Dusk View Post
    Yup. Game is extremely alt-unfriendly.

    It takes 156 CM runs to put my monk, bard, and scholar in full DL. 156.
    Dude why do you need to full DL all your jobs? There is craft equipment too, there is AK drops etc etc... You do it because you want, not because you have to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZaelC View Post
    Dude why do you need to full DL all your jobs? There is craft equipment too, there is AK drops etc etc... You do it because you want, not because you have to.
    i70 Crafts costs millions, AK isn't even comparable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisakiSatomi View Post
    i70 Crafts costs millions, AK isn't even comparable.
    Wut? Have you actually looked at stats to stuff?

    http://xivdb.com/?item/6313/Demagogue-Earrings
    http://xivdb.com/?item/4283/Darkligh...ngs-of-Casting

    That's a difference of +1 int and +1 det. That results in a less than .1 increase in average damage. The DL body pieces have an appreciably more amount of vitality which actually matters, but AK jewelry is perfectly fine and you don't have to spend the extra tomes to get all the DL jewelry since it's virtually identical to DL.
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    I would have to agree with most of the OP's post.

    Don't see a difference in having 8 different alts characters and having the caps/restrictions per Job on one character. Every time you switch to another job it is the same as logging off and logging in as an alt...

    Each Job should have it's own lockout and its own token cap.

    So why give us the job system if it is more beneficial to just make an alt?

    I also like the idea of only being able to roll on the first run through, to be honest, what do I care if someone is going to buy a run. Doesn't effect me in any way. I run with my FC and if people can't handle themselves, they don't usually last that long in an FC... So again, it won't effect me at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisakiSatomi View Post
    i70 Crafts costs millions, AK isn't even comparable.
    Then how did I made titan more than 5 times with just 4 pieces of DL and the rest AK, I even made coil 1 and 2 with AK parts (I still do...), the difference between AK and DL is minimum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZaelC View Post
    Then how did I made titan more than 5 times with just 4 pieces of DL and the rest AK, I even made coil 1 and 2 with AK parts (I still do...), the difference between AK and DL is minimum.
    I can do Titan in AF gear. Using dungeons as benchmarks is stupid, it's gear, it's the stats. It doesn't matter if the gear is doable or not for this certain content.
    And having a few AK gear with almost everything i70+ doesn't mean full AK gear.
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    Last edited by MisakiSatomi; 10-16-2013 at 11:04 AM.

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