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Thread: Upcoming hotfix

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    Quote Originally Posted by FAVisceglia View Post
    They could just as easily put HM Titan in CM, make Demon Wall immobile, and triple the speed of the Stalker in WP.
    Ha, that's good stuff. I doubt they will lower AK, it is a well designed dungeon (minus lack of incentive for trash mobs and the way accessories drop in there). In fact, I bet they fix the tree exploit on the first boss, effectively "raising" difficulty. I think they'll leave Ifrit and Garuda, but there is a big commotion about Titan being ridiculous for many, some of it because of lag, more so because people are selling runs, so it is problematic for the game's culture. Especially so if the rumor is true that a relic will be required for the Crystal Tower in just a couple weeks...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    I doubt they will lower AK, it is a well designed dungeon (minus lack of incentive for trash mobs and the way accessories drop in there).
    I hope that they do fix the accessories drop. I have been trying to get the Demagogue ring for a month and I have yet to come across it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paradigmfellow View Post
    I hope that they do fix the accessories drop. I have been trying to get the Demagogue ring for a month and I have yet to come across it.
    I'm of the opinion there should be a ring-only chest. The AK rings are important in the gear progression when transitioning to Darklight... Or make a separate DL ring for the classes (vit/parry/acc and vit/parry/crit for example). Probably easier/better with just fixing ilvl 60 rings though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    I think they'll leave Ifrit and Garuda, but there is a big commotion about Titan being ridiculous for many, some of it because of lag, more so because people are selling runs, so it is problematic for the game's culture. Especially so if the rumor is true that a relic will be required for the Crystal Tower in just a couple weeks...
    I'd be all for it if they nerf Titan HM since i have not done it yet and i've been having trouble with it. Though even so how much can you do to make it easier? Reduce the damage? Lower cast speeds? Lower boss HP? In the end it's probably still going to be tough for somebody. I think it's hard to balance the game to please both the hardcore gamers and the casual crowd. Though i believe they want to make extreme modes so i guess there will be always something thrown in for the people who want a real challenge and enjoy super difficult content.

    But this is all speculation really it might be the case they won't nerf anything.
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    Titan fight is easy to fix. What is the issue now? The main issue for most is lag and inability to get out of aoes consistently. This is an MMORPG not an action MMO and not an FPS. The fights in this game should not be based on reflexes, they should require brains and group coordination. With all that in mind the fix is simple, increase cast times by about 1/3 of a second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McLeech View Post
    Titan fight is easy to fix. What is the issue now? The main issue for most is lag and inability to get out of aoes consistently. This is an MMORPG not an action MMO and not an FPS. The fights in this game should not be based on reflexes, they should require brains and group coordination. With all that in mind the fix is simple, increase cast times by about 1/3 of a second.
    Lots of MMO fights are reflex fights. They might not be require the amount of precision that Titan is currently requiring but I can count numerous fights where being at the wrong place at the wrong time is a raid wipe.
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    I have to agree with McLeech, Titan is unforgiving for any mistakes or lag. You mess up and you're pretty much dead. Since this fight can be done in the duty finder I believer it's difficulty is set just a tad too high. Here's hoping SE turns it down just a bit. I don't mind a challenge but this fight takes it too far for something that is supposedly puggable.
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    I guess a cast time increase is something. The margin of error is kind of too fine for something that in some cases can outright kill you. Even when you know what's coming next it can catch you out and you're done. The plumes are also sort of unfair imo. It's fine in a group with voice chat where you can co-ordinate everyone to stack at the right time. Plumes target people instead of just being in a random location so sometimes by RNG you can have 3 stack up on you and just kill you if you don't dodge fast enough. Don't get much time to move especially when they pile up and make a larger area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyniwins View Post
    Lots of MMO fights are reflex fights. They might not be require the amount of precision that Titan is currently requiring but I can count numerous fights where being at the wrong place at the wrong time is a raid wipe.
    Thou Titan doesn't require any reflex, since his rotation are fixed every time. You could literally stop attacking him and auto attack while getting ready to move the moment whatever your waiting for goes off (wright/landslide/bombs). Titan pales in comparison to any MMO out there mechanic wise.

    A single bomb won't kill you, if you are having trouble avoiding bombs and landslide you could hug one bomb. It shouldn't kill you unless your under geared.

    A single plume shouldn't kill you as well, if your having trouble avoiding weights, don't stack on top of each other knowing you can't get out in time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maplekoya View Post
    Thou Titan doesn't require any reflex, since his rotation are fixed every time. You could literally stop attacking him and auto attack while getting ready to move the moment whatever your waiting for goes off (wright/landslide/bombs). Titan pales in comparison to any MMO out there mechanic wise.

    A single bomb won't kill you, if you are having trouble avoiding bombs and landslide you could hug one bomb. It shouldn't kill you unless your under geared.

    A single plume shouldn't kill you as well, if your having trouble avoiding weights, don't stack on top of each other knowing you can't get out in time.
    LOL Ok, can I join your Titan group as a WHM? I will auto attack Titan ...
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