Free Company Capacity - Insufficient Resources to Complete this Action

[silentwindfr]

you seems to miss the point of mjollnir, let's me try to help to get it.

like you said not everyone are on the same time, why not make an alliance of FC, using LS as bridge between it.
like all the people from this time period in the same FC and other, using an officier LS for coordinate action between each FC.
one point i want to add, is not eve online, this game is not made for.... insanely huge FC, it's more for small FC of 40-50 member or so. over this, like mjollnir have said the chat will be a wall of text that will be impossible to follow.

indeed is not all the time, but it can happend.
finally, you say by yourself that everybody is not up all the time, and from personal experience of big structure, you always have group in the group. you already working like this even without know it. because is impossible to know everybody in a structure of more of 100 people.

@belladona: why not do the inverse, us the LS for coordinate between officier and make FC for group of 200 people? (still to huge if you want my piece of mind)

[Mjollnir]

It isn't, and you aren't in our FC anyway, so please don't worry about it.

Not worried, chum, but a member of your FC posted this topic on a discussion forum, so please expect members of the community to comment or, you know, make helpful suggestions.

No, because the majority are actually doing things. Running a dungeon, or crafting, or leveling. We don't just sit around chatting all the time

Haha, well fair enough. I was just talking from personal experience, wherein my FC members chat quite prolifically whilst crafting, levelling or waiting in DF. I guess if you don't socialize through the FC as much, then you won't get a wall of text! But I guess that brings me back to asking why you feel the need to be in the same FC if you don't use it to socialize.

[CSX]

Wow what in the heck. . golly people from your guild are rude. I'm not talking down on anyone. . .fine, I'll revise my original post:

WoW! golly, 700+ members!? that's a lot hehe, I THINK you guys have got to be the biggest biggest guild in the whole game atm!^^

But I don't think SE will do anything and this is kind of troll bait T~T

ooh I know! Maybe you guys should see if you can get together with other over limit FC's and see if you can get a joint request kind of thing going on! ^^ or you can try a really really really large chat thingy hehe. GL!

Good luck to your guild, thought I could have a decent conversation while I was bored at work but I thought wrong and just served as a hard reminder as to why I don't Queue or prefer not to do anything with my OWN language group. Again, Good luck, I hope you get your requests fulfilled.

[TrystWildkey]

This thread is still going, huh? Over something that doesn't really concern anyone but the FC members themselves? Oh right... spite and entitlement. Not to mention pointless posts like my own.

Take solace in this: I used one of my limited daily posts to do absolutely nothing aside from voicing my disbelief and entertainment.

I'm with you on this. I absolutely cannot understand why people are berating/arguing/disparaging this group for what was essentially a simple request.

Why do so many people care how others play the game when it's NOT directly affecting them?

Again, to the OP and their FC's: I really hope the FC alliances come out with 2.1 and that it solves your logistical problem. My advice is to just not respond to people who only want to cause controversy.

[Bellona]

Thank you to those who understand why this thread was begun in the first place- to voice our concerns over an issue that has affected us personally. That we have to defend ourselves against incredulity or even outright hostility over the fact that we've exceeded the current capacity is silly.

It's true that at this point in the game the FC is mostly a glorified chat room. However, the reason we felt now was the time to address our concerns is because in 2.1 we will have Company housing and other benefits for the Free Companies become available. As it was said, we would like the ability to see all our people under one roof- both figuratively, and literally once Company housing comes to pass. Honestly at the time that 2.0 began we never expected to have more than 512 regular, active players after the 30 days were up. But now here we are, with over 800, and at a loss for how we're supposed to have everyone play together without anyone feeling like they've been excluded to the "B" team.

[Alavastre]

This is the second time someone has suggested that we "use a linkshell."

What problem would this solve for us, and how would it solve it?

Pretty simple. Disperse commands through your officers via a linkshell. It's actually not that hard to figure out.

Hey, we are going to do AK runs, got anyone on your side?
Um yeah, let me ask. Yeah we do. There name is ThisISn't Abigdeal
Sweet, I'll invite them.

I didn't say it was freaking ideal, but it's not impossible to use a LS to coordinate the two FC. Explained enough?

Edit: There is no effective way to coordinate 700 people with a chat feature. If that is what you're looking for you'll never find it. Make a guild website, coordinate there, use a LS to coordinate between FC's and use your officers to disperse commands.

My post never suggested to "just use a linkshell". A hammer is cool, but it's hard to cut a cake with it. Use the tools available in the best way possible. And don't "call out" people that point out how to do so. Not like this is brain science.

[silentwindfr]

@bellona: i understand perfectly your point, i simply to find a way to help you. because i doubt they will change this.
about the housing i'm pretty sure you can open the house to everybody if you want. and i doubt a house will be able to hold 800 people!!

[Magus42]

like you said not everyone are on the same time, why not make an alliance of FC, using LS as bridge between it.

A Linkshell can only have 128 people. It is not even close to a solution for any of this.

I guess that brings me back to asking why you feel the need to be in the same FC if you don't use it to socialize.

Because the FC chat tends to be more directly game related - organizing dungeon runs, FATE parties, etc. Things that are far more important to be in a single chat, as opposed to split into multiple.

Pretty simple. Disperse commands through your officers via a linkshell. It's actually not that hard to figure out.

Because dedicating a few poor saps to being literal message runners is such a fabulous game experience... It's a hacky, garbage "solution" and you all know it.

It's essentially what we have to resort to right now, and it's awful.

[HunkyJimpjorps]

You all keep suggesting things we're already doing. I mean, the officers and I are fairly clever people. We've figured out some workarounds for the major issues. Workarounds aren't solutions, though.

We have a voice chat server.
We have an offsite forum.
We have people that relay information between FCs.

It'd just be nice, at the very least, to have a single place where multiple FCs could be in the same chat channel without having some kind of courier relay system or third-party program, or to have the FC size limit boosted. That's all.

[Quanta]

It's amusing how there are so many people opposed to this suggestion, as if Yoshi-P asking some intern to change a value on the client/server is somehow going to divert development resources away from housing or the next dungeon. Also, could someone explain to me how a single database request for 800 records would somehow be worse than 2 database requests for the same number of records?