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    I am feeling the DNC as a tank for XIV. Being a distraction has always called for some "flare" and what is a tank but a giant distraction for the mob so everyone else can do their jobs? I am feeling an Evasive/Counter Stricking Tank all the way for DNC in XIV ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maku View Post
    I am feeling the DNC as a tank for XIV. Being a distraction has always called for some "flare" and what is a tank but a giant distraction for the mob so everyone else can do their jobs? I am feeling an Evasive/Counter Stricking Tank all the way for DNC in XIV ^^
    Well at least i'm seeing one similar mindset, I want a graceful tank. It's not seen much in games, and I feel it would fit an evasion tank as well.

    I was originally hoping bard was going to be a healer. That way bard and dancers could go well together not only thematically but in actuality as well. Bard plays some healing tunes for the dancer while the dancer goes toe to toe with enemies with style, unfortunately ithey oddly picked it to be a dps class.

    Healers work well though, in actuality it can be anything. In FFXI it could be a tank, it could be a support, and it can even be a damage dealing based class.
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    Last edited by Calypsx; 10-02-2013 at 02:34 PM.

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    Th Lalafell emote "dance" now boost the team power by 2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calypsx View Post
    In FFXI it could be a tank, it could be a support, and it can even be a damage dealing based class.
    I definitely like the idea of it being an evasion tank, since I don't see the lore of NIN fitting in the world so easily, I really loved playing DNC in FFXI I would put my DNC right up there as being as evasive as my THF (of course my THF was still better at evading and that's without shadows from NIN since I started to sub DNC), but DNC with NIN sub was great at tanking imo, plus I saved my bf's butt a lot with the heals when he would do soul eater.

    Plus I'm just a big fan of dance animations and wanna see those in XIV.
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    I really like the concept of dancer as tank too. There's a song by Sting (the night the pugilist learned to dance) that just paints such a great story for it.

    Coincidentally, if you want to make dancer a healer, I would recommend making it a TP-based dps leech healer. The basic mechanic is that the player gains a stack of a certain buff every time they total a certain amount of damage. Players then gain a skill that lets them spend those stacks as a heal. So essentially, this boils it down to the more damage you deal, the better your heals will be. This will of course make the class a very bursty heal (in more ways than one) by design.

    Unfortunately, there's some major balancing issues with this idea. First, the monk combo is already difficult to use because of the combo chain and positioning. If you have to add the fact the same player has to watch the party's hp bar and the enemy's status bar to maximize heals, it can be quite overwhelming. It is also difficult to say how the healing and dps will be balanced after testing, as I'm certain the possibility of a tanky dps healer will most certainly be considered with the above mechanic. It'll be a challenge to make it viable but not overpowered.
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    Last edited by Anova; 10-08-2013 at 04:57 PM.

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    Here's a link to my Thief class that branches in Assassin job (kind of like a ninja DPS specced, I guess). I could easily see Dancer becoming a tank or healer out of some of those abilities. It would need to be tweaked of course, but they could do something like a link between dancer and a single target, or stance it out for group and single target, and have that target get healed for 300% of the damage the DNC is doing?

    I dunno, I like this theorycrafting for new jobs and classes though!
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    Why do people keep trying to make THF a class? It doesn't deserve to be downgraded.
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    I'd love to see Dancer added as job.
    The idea of implementing it as tank is not bad but I think I'd still prefer the supporter role.

    Bard, for me, is not a real support job and getting a job that can boost attack/spell speed, evasion, critical strike chance, HP regeneration,... would be fun to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyana View Post
    I'd love to see Dancer added as job.
    The idea of implementing it as tank is not bad but I think I'd still prefer the supporter role.

    Bard, for me, is not a real support job and getting a job that can boost attack/spell speed, evasion, critical strike chance, HP regeneration,... would be fun to play.
    A lot of people think this but it simply can't happen. SE won't break the Duty Finder Healer, Tank, DPSx2 set up to add in a pure support class.
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    I like the thought of healer myself. Make it focus on Dex (smoother dances = better healing) and have it fill in the missing HOT niche. If its a tank then evasion would probably not be the best way to go as one moment of bad luck would drop you. Active mitigation would be better, hit this dance to make threat and this one to reduce damage and what not so you don't end up with a dancer in plate mail.
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