120 diremite web in 10~ minutes. No camping!. No fighting RMT!

[Roez]

But keep in mind that the areas with the 2x shard nodes do not have a 5 gather attempt node nearby...

You're right. I got up early, not awake and edited that in as an after thought because it works for non-shard nodes. I'll take it out.

I do my shard farming on auto pilot at this point, and to keep me focused I set a timer and see how many shards I can do an hour. Some areas the nodes are a bit far apart which slows it down.

[Roth_Trailfinder]

That lack is irrelevant.

5 gather node, 5 shards. Use the Ward, you get +2 shards per attempt, for 3 shards per attempt. 3 * 5 = 15 shards for that node.
4 gather node, 1 extra yield, get 8 shards. Use the Ward, get +2 shards per attempt, for 4 shards per attempt. 4 * 4 = 16.

You get more shards on the +1 Yield than you do on the +1 Attempt nodes. That is even true when you add in the +2 Shard Ward skills.

[Roez]

That lack is irrelevant.

5 gather node, 5 shards. Use the Ward, you get +2 shards per attempt, for 3 shards per attempt. 3 * 5 = 15 shards for that node.
4 gather node, 1 extra yield, get 8 shards. Use the Ward, get +2 shards per attempt, for 4 shards per attempt. 4 * 4 = 16.

You get more shards on the +1 Yield than you do on the +1 Attempt nodes. That is even true when you add in the +2 Shard Ward skills.

I don't follow what you just said. The wards give 2x shards per swing regardless. If you have 1 extra gather attempt, the 5 gather nodes, you get 2 more shards than if it's 4 gather attempt. It doesn't matter if the node gives 2x or 1x.

The nodes with an extra shard will always give you 2x shard. It doesn't matter what node you use wards on (since they are all 4 attempt).

[Simaril]

You can do it too. There's no reason for all of the complaints about how hard it supposedly is to get this stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1k8z7XLASk

I had nearly 99 allowances, and made a point to use at least 6 everyday. After 8 days I NEVER was offered diremite as a reward. RNG rewards make it hard "to get this stuff," and THAT is "the reason to complain." I knew the locations of the lv 15, 20, and 25 leves that sometimes offer diremite, and did them all, as well as other leves. The 9th day, suddenly one of the triple leves offered it, repeatedly, and I got hundreds... but this was after a lot of frustration, and being stuck because of a "random" reward, or difficult to farm item.

I've also been leveling all the DoH, and this is a significant road block compared to everything else. I don't mind the DoH being different, but this is not fun or rewarding or challanging. It's just DUMB.

I wish I had the option to give you a thumbs down!

[Roth_Trailfinder]

I don't follow what you just said. The wards give 2x shards per swing regardless. If you have 1 extra gather attempt, the 5 gather nodes, you get 2 more shards than if it's 4 gather attempt. It doesn't matter if the node gives 2x or 1x.

The nodes with an extra shard will always give you 2x shard. It doesn't matter what node you use wards on (since they are all 4 attempt).

No, the Wards give PLUS TWO shards, regardless.

The default yield is 1 shard, right? 1 + 2 = 3 so when you use a Ward on a normal node, you get 3 shards per swing. If its 4 swings, you get 12 shards total, if its 5 swings you get 15 shards total.
The +1 Yield nodes, they give 2 of everything per swing. Add in a Ward, and that becomes 1 + 1 + 2 = 4 shards per swing. Since its going to be 4 swings, you get 16 shards on that particular node.

Node stuff is all additive, not multiplicative. +1 Yield, +1 Swing, +2 shards ... its not x2 or x3 or x anything.

[Jess_Spark]

You can do it too. There's no reason for all of the complaints about how hard it supposedly is to get this stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1k8z7XLASk

If you already have all the leather, thread and bolts made this could be...I spent 3 hours last night making 100 thread (HQ) and 3 hours the night before making about 130 Hard leather (HQ) so tonight I just need to make a bit more thread and some bolts...Granted I am trying to raise my weaving to about 35 or so because I have 600 HQ flax I can use to get to 50.

[Bagel_Bear]

Diremite Web from Leves:

Unless you're within that range and those are the primary leves you're doing to level up it's a waste of a leve allowance.

Shard Issue:

This is the breakdown:

5x Node: 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 5 shards
4x Node w/ bonus yield: 2 + 2 + 2 + 2 = 8 shards
5x Node w/ yield skill: 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 = 15 shards (10 bonus shards from skill)
4x Node w/ bonus yield and yield skill: 4 + 4 + 4 + 4 = 16 (8 bonus shards from skill)

Yes, using the skill on a 5x node grants the most bonus shards but you're missing the fact that you need to regain GP and simple doing a three node circuit for the lvl. 30 nodes with the bonus yield would gain shards much quicker. You're not constantly getting those two extra shards from using the skill on the 5x node but you are constantly gathering from the bonus yield node.

[busta]

Diremite Web from Leves:

Unless you're within that range and those are the primary leves you're doing to level up it's a waste of a leve allowance.

I've heard this nonsense 100x with zero logical explanation. Unless I focus literally all of my game time on gathering and crafting, there's just not enough time for me to maximize the exp gain from all 6 leve allowances every day. If I tried, I'd get to max leve allowance and then literally waste them. Even *if* I had the time, I happen to think focusing some allowances on making money is more than worth simply pouring every allowance into exp.

If you already have all the leather, thread and bolts made this could be...I spent 3 hours last night making 100 thread (HQ) and 3 hours the night before making about 130 Hard leather (HQ) so tonight I just need to make a bit more thread and some bolts...Granted I am trying to raise my weaving to about 35 or so because I have 600 HQ flax I can use to get to 50.

You don't need everything to be HQ if you're wearing good gear. Just an HQ item or two per craft will be enough. If you're just aiming for the rewards, you don't need *anything* to be HQ and you can just buy the materials for dirt cheap from NPCs or players. Or make it yourself.

[Bagel_Bear]

I've heard this nonsense 100x with zero logical explanation. Unless I focus literally all of my game time on gathering and crafting, there's just not enough time for me to maximize the exp gain from all 6 leve allowances every day. If I tried, I'd get to max leve allowance and then literally waste them. Even *if* I had the time, I happen to think focusing some allowances on making money is more than worth simply pouring every allowance into exp.

If you want to make 100% use of a leve then it is a waste of a leve. Whether you have the time to make the most use of the leve is a different story. In your case it doesn't look like you can. You can always bank them for later as well.

[FruityPebbles]

And if we could get fleece I'd be a happy clam.

Though deep down I know 3:1 and 5:1 shard ratio is still the bottleneck in the game when it takes just as long to gather them at 50 as it did at 5.

Completely off topic ..
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