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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    So if your role and skills are defined for you there no reason to lock you to a specific weapon.
    Your weapon is locked to your class.
    Your class (may be) locked to your job.
    Your job is locked to a set of skills.
    Your set of skills is locked to your role.

    I'll try it the other way too.

    Your Class is locked to your Weapon.
    Your Job is locked to your Class. (Maybe)
    Your Skills are locked to your Job. (The skills that were mentioned in the post)
    Your Role is locked to your Skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodLotus View Post
    Your weapon is locked to your class.
    Your class (may be) locked to your job.
    Your job is locked to a set of skills.
    Your set of skills is locked to your role.
    Why do you keep using Class and Weapon as if they are two different things?

    Anyway if thats how you want it thats fine.

    How I'd prefer it is

    You Equip your weapon and are identified as being a user of that weapon.

    When you level your weapon skill up to the appropriate rank you learn to specialize in a specialized role.

    This role is given a name and called your Job (Job and Role are synonyms after all.)

    Once you master this Role/Job you are now able to equip any weapon you want and perform the same role as long as your skill with said new weapon is on part with the requirements of the Role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    Why do you keep using Class and Weapon as if they are two different things?

    Anyway if thats how you want it thats fine.

    How I'd prefer it is

    You Equip your weapon and are identified as being a user of that weapon.

    When you level your weapon skill up to the appropriate rank you learn to specialize in a specialized role.

    This role is given a name and called your Job (Job and Role are synonyms after all.)

    Once you master this Role/Job you are now able to equip any weapon you want and perform the same role as long as your skill with said new weapon is on part with the requirements of the Role.
    Wow... I'm not sure how much simpler I can make it for you. Gimme a second to think about it, my GF is a preschool teacher I'm gonna give her a call real quick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodLotus View Post
    Wow... I'm not sure how much simpler I can make it for you. Gimme a second to think about it, my GF is a preschool teacher I'm gonna give her a call real quick.
    Don't even try Cairdeas is a person when he set his mind to something there noting you can do about it you just going to fight with him for hours at end trust me i did for hours in eorzeapedia.com to i found out there noting you can do about it lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Don't even try Cairdeas is a person when he set his mind to something there noting you can do about it you just going to fight with him for hours at end trust me i did for hours in eorzeapedia.com to i found out there noting you can do about it lol.
    I think I'm starting to notice that lol.
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    Bloodlotus, you know if they were smart, they wouldnt lock a job to only one weapon type. that has been one of the flaws of the class system. The Job and class system together, you can define your role while using the weapon of choice, considering the weapon actually fits the class. aka, paladin probably wouldn't want to use a wand or bow. Class ranks could also still determine your HP and MP leves to some extent, so equipping a wand on with paladin job would make you have shitty hp, thus be a shitty tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    Bloodlotus, you know if they were smart, they wouldnt lock a job to only one weapon type. that has been one of the flaws of the class system. The Job and class system together, you can define your role while using the weapon of choice, considering the weapon actually fits the class. aka, paladin probably wouldn't want to use a wand or bow. Class ranks could also still determine your HP and MP leves to some extent, so equipping a wand on with paladin job would make you have shitty hp, thus be a shitty tank.
    I can see the point, but I don't think they'll do that lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodLotus View Post
    Wow... I'm not sure how much simpler I can make it for you. Gimme a second to think about it, my GF is a preschool teacher I'm gonna give her a call real quick.
    You can say what ever you want it has no bearing on what those of us who asking for the freedom to use what ever weapon we want once we unlock and master the job. (Not what ever weapon we want to unlock the job.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    You can say what ever you want it has no bearing on what those of us who asking for the freedom to use what ever weapon we want once we unlock and master the job. (Not what ever weapon we want to unlock the job.)
    I see what you mean, but I do think you are understanding it incorrectly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    Why do you keep using Class and Weapon as if they are two different things?

    Anyway if thats how you want it thats fine.

    How I'd prefer it is

    You Equip your weapon (sword) and are identified as being a user of that weapon (Gladiator).

    When you level your weapon skill up to the appropriate rank you learn to specialize in a specialized role (Job).

    This role is given a name and called your Job (Job and Role are synonyms after all.) (word games aren't needed)

    Once you master this Role/Job you are now able to equip any weapon you want and perform the same role as long as your skill with said new weapon is on part with the requirements of the Role. This last part probably won't happen for the sake of Class Uniqueness.
    Is a Goblin Longsword a Gladiator? They are two different things. A weapon and a Class
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