Crafting and spiritbond

[Reinheart]

You could just equip the crafting/gathering gear onto a combat class instead, totally works plus you can level your chocobo in the process. Just be careful not to nerf yourself with too much non-combat gear. I'll have a look for myself about DoW/DoM with DoL/DoH parties.

True but was kind of hinting the ilvl55 crafting AF pieces (Class specific gear) for some good crafting materias

[Manila]

Grade of materia does not matter, btw. In my testing, III and I had the exact same effect. More materia is also definitely better. I tested 2 lvl 47 electrum rings (both hq, 1 with 1 materia, 1 with 3) over 80 lvl 42 synths. The 1 materia ring got to 35% while the 3 materia ring got to 46%. At this rate, the single melded ring would have been at less than 80% when the triple melded ring completed, which is fairly significant. (178 crafts vs 228 crafts).

Also, all crafts are not equal in terms of rate of spiritbinding. There is reduced efficiency the lower the craft level is compared to the item level. In the above example, less synths would have been necessary for completion had the tests been on lvl 47+ crafts. Unfortunately i haven't done enough testing to understand specifically how level affects the rate, just that it does.That said, there is no difference between at-level and above-level synths, they have equal efficiency.

[Raldo]

That said, there is no difference between at-level and above-level synths, they have equal efficiency.

Interesting. I'll amend my earlier post then.

[Nenin]

Grade of materia does not matter, btw. In my testing, III and I had the exact same effect.

This is wrong. I made a huge post about spiritbonding a while back. I'll see if I can find it.

Also I've noticed something very odd about spiritbonding with rings. The ring in the top item slot ALWAYS bonds a hair faster. With identical items and identical melds it always seems to be just about 1% higher than the lower ring. Maybe it's just a graphical error but it happens with all rings.

Edit-you might actually be right, sorry about that. I'm compiling a ton of actual data right now so I'm gonna write a guide for spiritbonding. Most of what I wrote in that long post is correct but a few might be off. I'm gonna try to include all the actual percentages this time.

[Manila]

It's not wrong according to my testing. I'd love to see any raw data you have to compare my results to, though. Maybe we can figure out why the rate is different.

I used electrum rings of crafting for this test, as well. Both created specifically to test materia affects based off your assertion that it was different. Slotted one with fire I and one with fire iii. Synthed electrum until they completed. They completed within 1 synth of each other, which is why I said there's no effect. I'll test again this evening to reverify.

Tested again, no change. Both I and III bonded at identical rates.

[YuriRamona]

This is wrong. I made a huge post about spiritbonding a while back. I'll see if I can find it.

Also I've noticed something very odd about spiritbonding with rings. The ring in the top item slot ALWAYS bonds a hair faster. With identical items and identical melds it always seems to be just about 1% higher than the lower ring. Maybe it's just a graphical error but it happens with all rings.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1350491

[AridElf]

True but was kind of hinting the ilvl55 crafting AF pieces (Class specific gear) for some good crafting materias

Ahh interesting, I'll have to get some high level crafter buddies together and have a play with it.