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    Sparda Amon
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by rzr22 View Post
    It's been a few weeks since I last read BLM theorycrafting discussions. I finally got a BLM to 50 and have been running into some situations I'm not sure how to handle.

    1.) Is Thunder II still the go-to thunder for non-thundercloud procs?

    Yes for any fight except Turn 2 and 4, I recommend using Thunder 3 to buy your tanks time b4 you go ape shit on the disposal node,ADS or the soldiers in turn 4.


    Note that for any fight that haz aggro issues aside from the one I mentioned Thunder 3 with it long cast buy much needed time for your tanks.

    2.) One thread suggests that you hold thundercloud procs until Umbral stage given that the buff will last long enough for this to be possible. What do you guys do? Even if that's sound advice, lets pretend the situation arises where you WONT be able to hold the proc until Umbral. This means you go ahead and use it and when you do get to umbral, likely some time on your Thunder will remain. If it's a few seconds, I suppose it's best to refresh, but what if like 10 or so seconds is left on it? What do I cast in that situation? Blizzard I? Refresh it anyways? What?

    Yes Thunder Cloud ASAP, I have had situations in the past where I would get Thunder Cloud 3-4 times in a row, it is all about luck. Just make sure if there is more than one target, you give them the thunder cloud if the main Thunder is still fresh on the main target.


    3.) This question has to deal with the delay in firestarter procs.
    a.) Is it better to wait a slight second to see if firestarter procs or to simply chain cast and potentially lose firestarter procs? I hope in the future all procs are more responsive.
    b.) If no, what about the last Fire cast before you Blizzard III. Is it better to at least wait on this one to see if Firestarter procs so that I can expend it before going into Umbral? I find that having a Firestarter proc while in Umbral causes me to have to delay anyways. If I go Blizzard III > Thunder II > Firestarter Fire III chain cast with no delay, I end up not regenning my full MP bar because the second tic of Umbral III regen tends to happen during the cast time of Fire III, but without a cast time it doesn't have time to tic, thus causing me to have to delay regardless, unless maybe I cast Thunder III in this situation instead.

    Use thunder 3 when that happens, guaranteed 2 mana ticks.

    4.) Whats the best use for Convert? Should I use it to extend my Astral phase or for Flare?

    Double Flare Combo or when a bard screw up your mana rotation with his/her mana song.

    5.) If Flare is even worth using, what's the best Flare rotation? Fire until I cannot cast anymore and have MP for Flare > Swiftcast > Flare > Convert > Fire (x1 for me) > Blizzard III?

    Flare is the hardest hitting AOE & single target spell/skill in the game, Double flare is more dmg than LB 1 if one of them crit under raging strike effect & astral III of course. You tell me is it good or not?

    Bliz 3 > Fire 3 > Fire 2 spam until 250-300 mana > Raging Strike > Flare > Convert > Swiftcast > Flare > Trans

    This is an example, you may replace fire 2 with 1 for single target dmg.

    6.) Outside of Flare, what's the best use(s) for Swiftcast? I like to use it to redo Astral III if I ever happen to drop out of form due to boss mechanics, but I'm curious if there's any better applications.

    Swift Cast can be used with LB as far some claimed (never tried it myself), also for quick Thunder 3.

    Thanks for any answers!
    Hope I answered all correctly as I'm busy eating ^^.
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    Last edited by NeoAmon; 10-10-2013 at 01:06 PM.