Really sick of speed runs in AK..

[Brennen]

Exploits! Exploits! EVERYWHERE!!!

"Honesty sucks, Cheating rules!" said no one, EVER!

[Cromax]

Exploits! Exploits! EVERYWHERE!!!

"Honesty sucks, Cheating rules!" said no one, EVER!

Exploits? No. I have no problems doing it the normal way and killing all the adds but being forced to run a single dungeon so many times each week for gear progression (until coil, which alleviates some of that) is really dumb so I have no problems with something legitimate that makes the run go faster. Now if it were an actual exploit such as glitching inside a wall, then I would feel differently about it and refuse to do it.

[Tawko]

Exploits? No. I have no problems doing it the normal way and killing all the adds but being forced to run a single dungeon so many times each week for gear progression (until coil, which alleviates some of that) is really dumb so I have no problems with something legitimate that makes the run go faster. Now if it were an actual exploit such as glitching inside a wall, then I would feel differently about it and refuse to do it.

The tree method is very much an exploit. There's really no room to really debate this. You are getting to an area you were not intended to be and you're unattackable. You're exploiting. And your reasoning that just because SE has it where you have to run AK for Myth (which I agree sucks) for so many weeks doesn't make it not an exploit.

I've seen other players do this in other MMO's and be whispered by a GM that they had to move.

[NyneAlexander]

everytime someone has insisted on the tree method, we've spent nearly an entire boss fights worth of time waiting for the healer to get into that tree.

[Cromax]

The tree method is very much an exploit. There's really no room to really debate this. You are getting to an area you were not intended to be and you're unattackable. You're exploiting. And your reasoning that just because SE has it where you have to run AK for Myth (which I agree sucks) for so many weeks doesn't make it not an exploit.

I've seen other players do this in other MMO's and be whispered by a GM that they had to move.

Um, no. My comment about the myth farming was in no way an attempt to argue that using an exploit was ok. Good job completely twisting my words around though.

Again, I don't feel that it's an "exploit". The tree is a physical object in the map that was put there by SE. It doesn't require hacking or glitching to get into, so I don't see where the problem is.