A griefer story

[Amyas]

This is silly. Oh well though just move on to the next log and come back later.

I take it you purposely reset aggro on mobs that lowbies already have tagged just so they won't get credit? That seems to be what you're defending.

You create an atmosphere like that, and you'll get it right back. Tbh, I didn't rage at the guy or anything. Just silently /followed as a blm after I got my log after about 10 mins of competing with that crap, and out pulled em until I got bored xD I did switch to my whm and give him a SS and regen before I left though, wonder what he thought of that...

Kind of pointless to post.

You're right, your post was kind of pointless. You knew what the thread was about, and apparently its 'pointless' to you, so why post and bump it up? Evidently its has more 'point' to you than you like to think ;p

[fixitman]

I was farming toad skins a few days ago, and saw another character casting what I thought were random spells around a set of three toads. He wasn't damaging them after about 30 seconds, so I figured he wasn't interested in them. I tagged and killed them, and continued my farming circle. About the third time around, he sent me a /tell, stating he was trying to sync those three toads' spawns so he could AOE them. He asked if I could leave those three alone. There was no anger or attitude, and I happily replied "NP". Those three toads were his for about a half-hour, when another player arrived and ignored both of our kind requests to leave those three alone. I was done farming by then, and eventually gave up trying to help.

There are good people and there are jerks everywhere. Who you have to deal with is just a matter of perspective and luck.

[TrystWildkey]

Your leveling/hunting log is no more important than someone's farming.

Technically, no, it's not more important.

BUT, if you're farming for an extended period of time, really, how much of an inconvenience is it for you to give up one spawn round to someone who just needs to tag a few for their hunting log.

It's not about importance, or me-first or even 'that's how the game works.' It's about the fact that it would likely NOT affect the person farming if they allowed this poor guy to just tag a few for the hunting log.

[Garan]

If you're going to quote me don't forget

Do I think it was probably a d*ck move to not give you a couple? Yes, I do.

[Garan]

I realize my post made me look kind of like a jerk. No i don't condone stealing mobs just out of spite. If you get a claim it's yours. What I'm saying is your agenda with the mob is not more important than mine. In the case of my apkallu farming, once I got civil conversation out of the levelers it ended up they just wanted a few mobs, not for me to leave or stop farming. I am perfectly happy to do this.

[Lstkaws]

Griefing has become a major issue. 1.0 never had this much, nor have many of the other MMOs' I have tried. Last night went into Garuda and paladin shows up and starts spamming LB1 every time it's up. We asked if he was trolling and he just laughed. No one wanted the 15 minute lockout, but after a few minutes someone just decided to go to bed and drop. Why would someone act like this? Who knows, I assume there are a lot of children playing the game, but it could just be a tragic commentary on our times.

[HiirNoivl]

Aaaah... once upon a time in FFXIV 1.0, there was a place called Natalan. It was the best place to level to 50 and after 50 it was the best place to spiritbond for materia.

Everyone wanted this small piece of Eorzea. Battles were fought, feelings were hurt, tears were shed. Terrible things were done, terrible things were said.

In the end... we all got over it.

Now we are in 2.0 where people fight for half a second over some Banemites or Fleece camps and come to the forums to complain about it. How things change....

[Amyas]

Aaaah... once upon a time in FFXIV 1.0, there was a place called Natalan. It was the best place to level to 50 and after 50 it was the best place to spiritbond for materia.

Everyone wanted this small piece of Eorzea. Battles were fought, feelings were hurt, tears were shed. Terrible things were done, terrible things were said.

In the end... we all got over it.

Now we are in 2.0 where people fight for half a second over some Banemites or Fleece camps and come to the forums to complain about it. How things change....

Several parties competing in 1.0 for xp camps is a bit different than purposely resetting mob's aggro so others can't out claim you :T
Nice false equivalence though.

I realize my post made me look kind of like a jerk. No i don't condone stealing mobs just out of spite. If you get a claim it's yours. What I'm saying is your agenda with the mob is not more important than mine. In the case of my apkallu farming, once I got civil conversation out of the levelers it ended up they just wanted a few mobs, not for me to leave or stop farming. I am perfectly happy to do this.

I don't have a problem with farmers, or being 'outfarmed'. But like I said above ^ doing that is just plain crappy.

Someone is a douche to you so you return the favor? Way to be the better person :P

Maybe now he knows he can and will be out pulled if he chooses to be a d***wraith from now on.

Seemed like a good idea at the time.

Kite the mob ---> Reset Claim.

? never noticed that in 1.0. Even xp camps seemed to be easy to get without having to compete, if there was a group at the entrance, move farther in, group in middle, move to wolf camp, etc.

And it no more justifies greifing. You're just as bad as the person you're complaining about.

Perhaps by your twisted sense of morality.

I would agree if it was affecting someone other than the farmer, but, it wasn't.

[HiirNoivl]

.... It's exactly the same....

In 1.0 you couldn't get any credit unless you claimed the mobs. That's why it's called a claim war. The same thing happened with people trying to get the Imperial hats to drop.

Kite the mob ---> Reset Claim.

[Altheras]

Whenever I go farming for my weaving I keep an eye out for level appropriate characters in the area who seem to be trying to tag my farming mobs. I stop pulling and send them a tell to see if they need em for, quest/hunting log, or whatever. Usually it turns into a pleasant conversation, I let them tag what they need, help them kill it, and they finish up and I go back to farming. Everyone's happy. ^^ I even talk to other farmers and negotiate things, sometimes ending up teaming up with someone, or sometimes I'll just give them the camp if they've only got 1 hour before bed or something. I can always go craft with what I've gotten so far and come back later on.