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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaen View Post
    Ugh, THIS thread again?

    Some people play the game only for the game economy. A huge reason I play FFXIV is because I like to earn gil from the market boards while I level crafting. Without the market boards a huge chunk of the game would be pointless for me. What you're proposing only ruins the game.
    Even though it isn't instantaneous or clearly visible to us, I'm pretty sure SE is taking action against the botters and RMTers and they're doing it in a way that isn't going to royally fuck up the game.

    Anyway, how will temporarily locking the market board actually solve anything? Whats to stop RMTers from coming back once they unlock it?
    The fact that you play an MMO exclusively for the market is just wierd but if that's your thing...have fun. I'd recommend trying Ebay, personally.

    Players with that priority are such a freaking small minority that I don't see how anyone could take that into consideration when making decisions regarding the good of the whole player base. I'm sure they are working on it and they've made progress but this would only be a temporary method of alleviating the RMT problem until then.

    And your last question wasn't even necessary. In my original post i said "until they solve the problem...they should LOCK the Market". Meaning that once the problem is solved and the market is unlocked...so there would be no issue with the RMTs coming back afterwards. <.<
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riko_113 View Post
    Players with that priority are such a freaking small minority that I don't see how anyone could take that into consideration when making decisions regarding the good of the whole player base. I'm sure they are working on it and they've made progress but this would only be a temporary method of alleviating the RMT problem until then.

    And your last question wasn't even necessary. In my original post i said "until they solve the problem...they should LOCK the Market". Meaning that once the problem is solved and the market is unlocked...so there would be no issue with the RMTs coming back afterwards. <.<
    What makes you think that crafters and gatherers who play this game for the in-game economy are such a small minority? There are huge free companies dedicated just to crafting. Crafting is an integral part of this game and the in-game economy is a big draw for many players. It's also what keeps a lot of players subscribing and active in the game.

    Maybe you haven't played a lot of MMOs? How can you not understand how essential the game economy is to this type of game? It kinda boggles my mind.

    Also, there's no magic way that they can definitively "solve the problem" forever. No matter what they do, RMTers and hackers will still try to find ways around the system. So how would they know when to unlock the boards?

    And as soon as they did unlock the boards, RMTers and botters would rush to find new ways to mess with things. Your "solution" to lock the boards until somehow the problem is "solved" doesn't actually help the situation in any way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaen View Post
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    Um, because it's a fact that they are a minority. You're confusing other players interest in the economy and crafting/gathering as them caring more about it than anything else. For every "huge" FC for crafting there is 100 or more for PVE or PVP(and even pvp is a minority).

    I've played MMOs for over 10 years. Don't try to make up things to prove your point. And speaking of other MMOs. If the economy is your sole focus, there are plenty of other MMOs with fully established economies you could be playing since they are rarely as different as normal MMO content.

    You're right, there is no magic way, however with your vast MMO experience you should know that most MMOs have done an excellent job of decreasing RMTs to the point where it's not just a burden to the players. Please stop scraping for things to try and make a valid point other than "I don't like this because I want money". They will know when to open when they have found a solution that they feel will eliminate a bulk of the problem. Simple as that.

    Again, you're scraping here. Every criminal group in the world for all of human history has worked to find ways around blockades..it's kind of their job. Human nature is not a reason to give up looking for solutions or Laws, and Law enforcement wouldn't exist. Stop trying to support RMT just because you don't want to miss out on being the Market top seller.

    You've clearly missed the point. My suggestion to temporarily close the market place wasn't meant as the solution. It is a temporary measure to help the game until a solution has been implemented. All you've done is rage how you don't want to lose money and how you think that people who do nothing but play the Market are the ones that keep this game running. If you didn't agree that this method would help, explain why and provide an alternative. The fact you don't like this method is irrelevant.
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