End game... Bored. The facts.

[razzgrizz3]

op all valid points and all true.
unfortunately mostly all that you will find on this forum is blind fans (people that already have subscribed up to 6 months), and just straight up se apologists/shills that never try to counter any of your points while trying to subtly flame you.

considering how much content was recycled from vanilla this games endgame is really as barebones as it gets.
if you remember the myth cap thing and how it is artificialy supposed to inflate your sub time it kind of makes sense. they will space content as much as possible so as to get more money. dont expect any fixes/world transfers/content updates until trial times run out. and im counting the trial times that will run out from the date they reopened the digital sales.

they already have shown they are quick to ONLY fix things that will be damaging to their sub inflation. things like amdapor speed runs, hm titan/hydra/chimera bug abuse etc.

[Millerna]

op all valid points and all true.
unfortunately mostly all that you will find on this forum is blind fans (people that already have subscribed up to 6 months), and just straight up se apologists/shills that never try to counter any of your points while trying to subtly flaming you.

Yes, because god forbid there are people who actually enjoy the game in it's current state, even if it has its flaws ...

[Jess72]

Game has been out a month... relax.

[Amayasu]

I'll never understand the "no endgame contents" crowd. You're in starter 50 gear, rings you crafted yourself, and weapons you bought and were boosted through. It's a social game - get social, buying your experiences is shallow, which is exactly your view of the game. Join or make an FC. Get 7 other players. Work on it. That's the point.

Crafted gear is better than DL gear - you're a capable crafter, so craft it.

Grinding AK? Once a day will do. Consider it a daily - it takes 35 minutes. No endgame content? The coil awaits, you've yet to try it.

The only change i'd make right now, is to balance the rewards between AK and Wanderer's - both should reward 80 Phil, 40 Myth. A little more choice would be nice.

I really like FFXIV because it feels more old school than most. I'm not rushing, not grinding, not farming, but I am having fun with my FC - a group of players i've known and played with for almost a decade. Three more dungeons, PvP, housing and a 24 man raid on the way too. This game is in surprisingly good shape IMHO.

[Yashnaheen]

I know this is somehow an unpopular opinion... But if they added something to DO with the best gear in the game, it would fix most of the issues (with most MMOs). When the only point is to get gear, the game is over once you get the gear. I'd like to use the gear once I get it for more than doing everything I already did to get the gear.




Yes I would play EVE if the gameplay was any good.

[Shneibel]

This is your problem. You're ignoring a game mechanic; FFXIV was clearly designed so that players can/should level several classes.

If you don't enjoy doing that, you're playing the wrong game.

actually, he can choose not to do those because they are optional, but his complain/opinion will not worth anything. Lets not mention that he actually said that he doesnt want to do Coil (an endgame content).

[IgnatiusCrumwald]

A few things I think they should do to make things interesting that are relatively easy to do is to reuse the old dungeons in new ways.
Not just with hard modes but also with single player challenge modes where you run the dungeons and trials alone would be interesting.

[kurokawa]

OP - If you're bored dude, just leave the game.

Don't mean that in a 'Get the hell outta here' manner, just a serious, 'go do something else if you don't like it, it's not an issue'.


I will never understand this forum and the people on it that come here to bitch and moan about something they don't like, especially if they aren't going to continue anyway.

If you don't like baseball, football, country music, olives, coffee, Mondays or just 'the dark', do you sit complaining all day that you tried it and it's sh*t?

Do you go a step further and go on a baseball forum and tell everyone who likes baseball how they're all utterly wrong and it's actually a terrible game?

If so, man, really, why? I'd love to understand that mentality.

There are a billion things you could be doing with your time, just not this. No problem! Move on.

[Shuon]

im one of those who is completely indifferent to endgame content because i simply dont have the time to do it.

but what ia endgame? i reckon it's about challenges that allow hardcore players to be the best. so i think it isnt pushing it too far to say endgame consists of 1) challenge and 2) reward, and finally 3) variety.

1) challenge: for a game which is essentially coded, everything is going to have patterns which would eventually be deciphered. even Rubik's cube is easy if you know the formula. if it does not have patterns, it will be purely random, and I believe random mechanics will make the game frustrating?

2) reward: players will generally go for the option with the best effort-gain ratio, and there will always be a 'best' way to do it

3) variety: unless balanced to perfection, variety is pointless because of 2).

so essentially, are you just trying to say SE should balance the reward system finely so you have more options? or are you just whining?

[Shaone]

My contention, my personal opinion, this is my basic metaphysical axiom, shall we put it that way. The existence, the physical universe, is basically playful. There is no necessity for it whatsoever. It isn’t going anywhere, that is to say that it doesn’t have some destination that it ought to arrive at. So then, in music though, one doesn’t make the ‘end’ of a composition the ‘point’ of the composition. If that was so, the best conductors would be those who played fastest, and there would be composers who wrote only finales. People would go to a concert just to hear one crashing chord, because that’s the end! Same way with dancing. You don’t aim at a particular spot in the room because that’s where you should arrive. The whole point of dancing is the dance.

An enlightened viewpoint, and one I must confess to sharing. And sharing is appropriate, because that's one of the greatest pleasures you can have. Taking the time to learn to dance with Titan has been one of my greatest moments so far, seeing the performance of myself and my group improve until that perfect run, with the Free Company all moving in synchronicity, anticipating, adapting, coming so close to the win many times then the final golden moment where the screen goes black and the feeling that all that rehearsal and preparation has been rewarded. If you ever need someone to help out with a dance, Moon Flow, feel free to ask me, and if I don't have prior engagements I'll always be willing

To the OP: I would infer from your list that you believe spamming dungeons over and over is the only thing which you can do to improve your character and prepare to start Endgame, and as a fellow Monk, can only assume you are coming here looking for suggestions to help open your 7th Chakra a little wider.

- Help others. Offer to do things for people in your FC even if you don't directly benefit. People will remember and repay your kindness.
- Instead of making gil to buy your way through difficult content, spend that gil to investing in your character until you are able to beat the content yourself. Work on your strength stat, set yourself a target and go for it!
- Do the items in your list of "endgame", but vary it up alot. Don't just log in and spam AK 8 times, mix it up, take your time over the course of the week, help people who need primal fights or weapons and get some of your tokens that way too.
- Level your subs. Check out which abilities cross class from other jobs and go out and get them (I'm currently aiming to get LNC to 34 to acquire Blood for Blood for my Monk). Of course, you say, "one should suffice"... it does, but only if you aren't aiming to be the best Monk you can be.