The account suspensions and gil reset leave a black mark on this game.

[silentwindfr]

In a free market, a "reasonable price" is whatever price people are willing to pay. If a crafter prices an item too high, then no one will buy it, and the crafter is forced to lower the price. If people buy it up immediately and there seems to be a lot of demand, they might price it higher next time. With that said, there is every reason to price a 50+ piece of gear at over one million gil. Would you blame Ferrari if some envious middle class man robs a bank in order to buy one of their cars? "Well, Ferrari should have priced their cars the same as a Corolla so that everyone could afford one, they're just as much at fault as the bank robber." Please.

exept this have make the RMT make profit from it.

[Susanoh]

exept this have make the RMT make profit from it.

Yes, the RMT make a profit because people buy gil. And instead of blaming the people who actually buy gil, many here advocate that the crafter shares just as much fault for using the free market as intended, when anyone who understands how an unregulated market in an MMO works would not advocate that at all.

[JazerCamacho]

Id say that if crafters are going to start charging astronomical amounts of gil for their work, then SE should increase crafting difficulty to actually merit the gil requested. As for SE's handling of the current situation. They are doing fairly well, but players need to lend a hand as well. Write down the names of the gil seller's sites report them to SE so they can proceed to have them shut down. Report all gil sellers you come across, dont just ignore them by black listing. Report whenever you find a farming bot teleporting from Farming nodes.

[Mishayangg]

Selling items to criminals is illegal in the real world. SE did the right thing to enforce the policy in game.

[MagicZelda]

i hate to say it, but perhaps there is no full gil/trade traceablity/auditing in game. So that's why a blanket punishment was done. If your not logging all trades etc then their is no audit trail to follow so next best thing is blanket punishment.

[scarebearz]

Selling items to criminals is illegal in the real world. SE did the right thing to enforce the policy in game.

All of my regular customers are still playing and were not suspended.

You don't know any of my items were bought by "criminals", a if any were via the market board, it was certainly not 99%.

In the "real world" that you keep talking about, if you put an item for sale in an auction house and it sells, but it was bought with stolen money, the seller would not be locked up for a week. It would be the auction house that has to deal with it, in this case SE as they run the market in effect.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

Selling items to criminals is illegal in the real world. SE did the right thing to enforce the policy in game.

Not to mention you can't screen your customers when using the market system...

[IgnatiusCrumwald]

They wanted to do something proactive to counter act the bad pub.

Fact is, unless there was some sort of counterfeiting exploit, then all the gil was legitimately earned into the world and there was no reason to remove it and no reason to take it from players unless there was a traceable transaction or trade with a known RMT gil-mule.

In lieu of actual explaination on this I have to assume they simply flagged accounts by amount of gil and arbitrarily adjusted their wallets based on circumstantial evidence or by dart board.

[Kyana]

I've reported and blacklisted ~80 gilsellers and bot users.
So far, only 2 of them were deleted.
I could understand if they took some time getting rid of the gilseller-spammers, but the bots should be handeled in a matter of hours or 1-2 days and not weeks or months.

On Ragnarok things got so bad that you can't even buy shards from AH anymore. 90% of the players selling shards are most likely botters/gilsellers, except someone really likes farming 5.000-10.000 (would take ~8-16h) shards every day.
And that's just the most obvious thing they sell.

What about the cheaters who get their crafting class from lvl1 to lvl50 in less than 1 minute?
What about the botters you can't even report because they teleport from spot to spot while their character model is placed under the surface of the ground or other objects, so you can't even see their names? You just hear and see the gathering animations.

[d4rkie]

I can't even report them most of the time. The report cheating UI freezes and never finishes loading. I bet SE get it that there is a huge issue of botting in this game, but their silence is disturbing.